The Solar Plexus- Controversy?

[Archimedes]

Ah, so for you CFT, there is a energy center just under your rib cage, interesting....

I wonder why i don't feel anything in that spot then.... hmmm....

When i get heart chakra energy stuff, it is a very wide circle of energy, so i guess, it could be incorporating this energy center aswell then. I do often times get an inner tremble / vibration, so i supose, i couldn't rule out that it may be from or with this energy center also.

But i am definately not aware of this energy center in and of it's own right....

Me too, Sleeper, fun eh.....?

I agree you could be incorporating other energy structures. I have a recommendation for you. Do and entire meditation (30-45minutes) on just a chakra giving you trouble, like the heart.

[Archimedes]

Well, it's not really controversial, and I'm sure a lot of learned folks have an explanation for this (I actually found a possible explanation for it, but there wouldn't be a reason to write this post, and I wanted to ask the more experienced or learned mystics in the forum about this.

Ever since I was young and took martial arts (and biology, and later physiology, etc.) I was taught that the solar plexus is about a few inches south of your chest- from that point where the ribs get together (the sternum), or two inches below (more or less) to just above the navel- a triangular spot in your upper belly.
I have always known this to be the Solar plexus.

So I was surprised to read (in a book about pathworking from a well-known author who will remain nameless) that he described the Solar Plexus as the 'point of balance of the body', around or a little bit above the hips. This to me sounded like the Hara, or Earth Stone- so I figured that this author was confused, the publisher was confused, someone was confused) and ignored that detail and concentrated on other parts of the book.

Until yesterday, when I read yet another book that described the Solar Plexus as 'the center of the body, just a little above the hips'- an almost identical description of the first instance that I read this other location for the solar plexus. Both authors are of the Western tradition, one a Gurdijeff graduate,
I searched the internet for instances in which this other location is indicated as the Solar Plexus, and found:
Biological Solar plexus
Solar plexus chakra As a standard
And,
Solar plexus as the hara http://1stholistic.com/meditation/ho...-breathing.htm
Hara as containing the solar plexus chakra http://reikihelp.com/blog/2010/06/hara/

So my question is, is this a cultural thing? What is the criteria in which the Solar Plexus is considered to be in the Hara or in the south part of the Hara?

Does anyone here have an alternate or clear reason why there are two reported places where the Solar Plexus is supposed to be?
I'm really curious about this.

Hello Friend,

The Hara in my opinion is what Robert Bruce refers to as the sub-navel storage center. As he mentions this storage center (of the 3main) is the most important. This is where we raise and store energy. In lots of paths you are told not to store energy but it seems that storing energy in your hara or sub-navel storage center is very good and does not affect your aura. I'm glad you posted this info.

Here is another controversy (not really)

Where is you base, root, sacral charka? I once again like Roberts dissection of the issue, which is that we have 5 in the area. 1 in each hip joint, 1 in the perineum, 1 in the sacral and 1 in the sexual organ area. I find it amusing that depending on what path you are looking into, researching or following, most of the time only one of these is referred to as the lowest....main chakra.

[Archimedes]

For me, anger manifests in the Throat chakra! I feel almost everything negative first there, and it's not just Anger, but also Sadness, Grief, Aesthetic Melancholy and Self-Pity ... up to complete Depression.

In my country, we also have the fitting idiom 'auf jemand einen dicken Hals haben', which means 'to be mad at / angry with s.o.' but it literally translates into English as 'to have a thick throat (or neck) towards / at someone'. For me this describes it perfectly. Btw, it is also used without the adjective dicken (thick), but with the same meaning.

This is an interesting statement, I have a kind of opposite effect on my throat chakra. In the shamanic tradition, this may indicated throat chakra trauma. One needs to be careful to work slowly on this area as lots of people have this. This trauma usually has to do with karmic traces left behind in your past both in your current life as well as for previous lives that you have lived. In my case if something is affecting my throat chakra a feel a very uncomfortable choking sensation. Sometimes I swallow constantly.

[Archimedes]

Great topic here

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[newfreedom]

I agree you could be incorporating other energy structures. I have a recommendation for you. Do and entire meditation (30-45minutes) on just a chakra giving you trouble, like the heart.

Thanks for the interesting recommendation Archimedes.

My heart chakra isn't giving me trouble any more, in 2006 to 2008 i went through some very scary intense phases with my heart chakra, but since then, i just feel my heart chakra being busy, which usually means my spirit teams are working on something for me.

I actually enjoy the feeling of energy when my chakras get activated these days, as it makes me feel the connection and closeness to spirit and my spirit teams.

It was not always so, in the past chakra activation, particularly my heart and head chakra would bring forward fear and terror and these were difficult to experience and release, which often caused fear and terror towards the fear and terror release feelings.

It seems unlikely at the moment that i will manage to do a chakra meditation for my heart chakra, but i have that idea with me now, so may be able to make use of it in future times

Thanks xX

[Sinera]

This is an interesting statement, I have a kind of opposite effect on my throat chakra. In the shamanic tradition, this may indicated throat chakra trauma. One needs to be careful to work slowly on this area as lots of people have this. This trauma usually has to do with karmic traces left behind in your past both in your current life as well as for previous lives that you have lived. In my case if something is affecting my throat chakra a feel a very uncomfortable choking sensation. Sometimes I swallow constantly.

Hi Archimedes, what would be your way of dealing with / working on the throat chakra problems then? I did not find a lot on the internet on the phenomenon of 'throat chakra trauma' in shamanism. Do you have any links or and info on this, too? Many thanks and Cheers, V.

[Archimedes]

Thanks for the interesting recommendation Archimedes.

My heart chakra isn't giving me trouble any more, in 2006 to 2008 i went through some very scary intense phases with my heart chakra, but since then, i just feel my heart chakra being busy, which usually means my spirit teams are working on something for me.

I actually enjoy the feeling of energy when my chakras get activated these days, as it makes me feel the connection and closeness to spirit and my spirit teams.

It was not always so, in the past chakra activation, particularly my heart and head chakra would bring forward fear and terror and these were difficult to experience and release, which often caused fear and terror towards the fear and terror release feelings.

It seems unlikely at the moment that i will manage to do a chakra meditation for my heart chakra, but i have that idea with me now, so may be able to make use of it in future times

Thanks xX

Glad I could be of some assistance. I see you have been evolving spiritually for some time now, I can only imagine where I will be in 3-4 more years. I have been doing energy work for about 1.5 years. My first 10 months or so seemed slow, but now I hear and feel the energy inside me. It is wonderful.

[Archimedes]

Hi Archimedes, what would be your way of dealing with / working on the throat chakra problems then? I did not find a lot on the internet on the phenomenon of 'throat chakra trauma' in shamanism. Do you have any links or and info on this, too? Many thanks and Cheers, V.

I may be able to find some infos for you a little later. You should dedicate some time to your throat chakra. Send energy to it for 20 minutes per day for a week. Throughout this process observe your interactions with people and your comfort levels. You may find yourself able to converse much more effectively. Remember each chakra has specific attributes attributed to it. I am still looking into these as I feel as though they are soooooooooooooooooo important to understanding yourself on a deep level.

[newfreedom]

but now I hear and feel the energy inside me. It is wonderful.

Yes, it certainly can be xX