'mysticly' dealing with malicious government

[Alaskans]

Normally I stay out of politics, but it is impossible for me to ignore the state of our 'government' any longer. The US government is sooo corrupt that it doesnt even exist anymore, its privately owned by the banks (a fate the founding fathers tried to avoid with the constitution). Watch "Zeitguiest" it explains everything, if your interested, beware, its really disturbing, made me cry even, at seeing how evil people can be.

Why mention this in the mysticism forum? Because we have the power to change such things, you may not believe it- then imagine you could. These people have committed crimes unimaginable. They should recieve what they have given. To reap what they have sown. They have forced enough deciet misery and death on others to pay for thier own destruction a million times over, it hovers over them ready to crush them, perhaps it is time for them to cash in.

On the other hand I may be jumping the gun ( got a case of bloodlust :twisted: ), a few prophecies in the bible havent come... however I only see 3 options:
1. wait for them to destroy themselves, but at the cost of countless lives in the wait
2. expidite thier destruction
3. convert them- tho, how many can convert?

What do you think?

[CFTraveler]

I am going to speak as a private individual here, and not as a moderator or administrator. So other mods may have to moderate me. So be it.

The only thing I can say is that the capitalist system is corrupt, and it has been the 'true' government for many years. The problem (or, one of the problems, anyway) is that most people want it to be that way, because they identify with the system- they think that they are part of it, not realizing they are expendable pawns.
For example, when Obama was elected, his platform was simple- change how the financial system (that has destroyed this country) works, and to give affordable healthcare to 'the people', and ending the war. People voted for him on this platform- and now they appear to be mad at him for attempting to fulfill his campaign promises.

Why?
Because the financial system is run by people who have bought themselves the politicians, and who can do almost anything they want (in other words, cheat and steal) with impunity. So when the government attempts to put in safeguards to make this work differently, the people scream no- that sounds like communism. Anyone with any degree of intelligence knows that what got us in trouble was allowing the most powerful corporations run the show- but no one wants them regulated. Why? Simple human greed. People stupidly see themselves as someday being in charge of those corporations- and they sure want to have the power to be able to get away what the executives of the big corps of today get away with- they don't see that those people already have more rights than 'regular' folks do- so putting regulations on some of the stuff that happens wouldn't give them less rights- they would give them the same rights the rest of us have. This is simple. If you or I were to do some of these things, we'd go to jail. But they get bonuses. For being greedy crooks.

I won't get into 'the healthcare debate' because it is too volatile- once again, people think that forcing insurance agencies to actually insure people that pay for it is somehow going to make things worse. Do you know why? Once again, simple human greed. The people that stir people up with made up things to create fear and uncertainty (like the bs about 'death panels', for example- don't care about anyone who is sick- they just want to be able to keep their insurance the way it is- because they can afford it. It's just a case of "I'm up here and I don't want you to join the club". Even if the club consists of people who didn't die of something that could be treated, because they just couldn't afford it.

I also have noticed that the people that scream "socialism" when the president tries to regulate the financial system and change the healthcare system (which is not a healthcare system, it is a health sales business) didn't say a peep when the former administration suspended people's right to free speech and gave the government the right to search and seizure and imprisonment without having any evidence or needing it- this didn't seem to bother them. You know why? Because they see themselves as the ones on the top doing it to someone else. They think they're a member of the club. They don't realize that their only value is as someone who can give a specific electoral college the power to elect who they want. And to pay all the legalized extortion money to companies that don't do what they're supposed to. The minute they don't have the money they're not valuable any more.
And even after the crash, when so many people cannot afford healthcare any more, when they are no longer in the position to look down at others, they still defend those values, because they still have the hope to be in the club- while supporting the system that made them lose everything. It really is sad.

Frankly, I've noticed that most people that are against the current administration are because they're racist and greedy. The rest is an excuse.

Now, as to cabals and conspiracies, not so sure- it reminds me of the old saying "Sociopaths don't play well with others".
But, as you know, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I saw Zeitgeist, and as anything else, it has something of value- but it also is yet another theory selling a worldview. And I no longer buy into worldviews.

Just don't let yourself be manipulated into becoming a 'fringer' who wants to abolish democracy and reestablish a monarchy- which is what is happening right now in the US.

I'd say, as a mystic, broadcast love, don't buy into fear.

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Obviously, all this is My Opinion.

[darron]

Amen to that.

[defectron]

Based on my research, our government for much of the previous century til today appears to for the most part be puppets of the federal reserve and the rockerfellers. The thing is much of what people perceive as government incompetance are actually calculated acts meant to manipulate us. Also dealing with it mystically may or may not work, it appears that the puppet masters in the shadow government may be very familiar with the occult.

Anyway you guys are probably going "Hey what makes you think that" well I don't have the time right now, but later I'll post a bunch of links up here explaining my views.