CFTraveler
1st November 2008, 10:24 PM
Taken from a post written by Aunt Clair:
Elementals and Elementaries- by Aunt Clair
"On another forum someone asked what the difference is between an elemental and an elementary according to Bardon in IIH . Here is my reply :
Elementals may include all sorts of entities . They are the beings of each element ie fire salamanders, water merfolk or undines, earth kobolds and leprechauns etc, air faeries or sylphs. They may be evoked but not created they are true beings . Bardon expresses this in Part 1 Theory Section 12 The Astral Plane (p 22 of this ebook version )
Elementaries are thought forms which are not truly alive according to Bardon they are naturally created thoughtforms of humans and deliberately created thought forms of magicians . The elmentaries can be created to do a task .
But the confusion lies when he says later that elementals can also be created in Step VII in Magic Physical Training (p 94 of this ebook version ) which seems to contradict himself . (Could it be a translation problem?- ed.)
"The difference between and "elemental" and an "elementary" is that an elemental is produced on the basis of deliberate thought forms with the help of the magician's imagination and willpower and works mainly on the mental plane for the magician's or other people's benefit.
An elementary on the other hand is far more penetrating and subtle in its effect because it is being created from one or several elements . In the light of practical examples , I will explain the real procreation of an elementary as thoroughly as possible , demonstrating the manner in which the magician has to create an elementary . The intuition acquired by the previous training certainly will help the magician to contrive his own practice , responsive to the purpose he aims at. According to his ethical development , he will never dare to crate elementaries for evil purposes, the invisible world would certainly vow ferocious revenge on him, because through the knowledge of how to create elementaries, the magician has got a plentitude of power which allows him to achieve anything on the mental, astral and material level he chooses. He must always consider that it is he himself who is responsible for his deeds and not the elementary he has created. The elementaries are compliant tools in the hands of the magician, following his order blindly and granting every desire to him regardless whether a bad thing has to be turned to good account or the other way around. "
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Elementals and Elementaries- by Aunt Clair
"On another forum someone asked what the difference is between an elemental and an elementary according to Bardon in IIH . Here is my reply :
Elementals may include all sorts of entities . They are the beings of each element ie fire salamanders, water merfolk or undines, earth kobolds and leprechauns etc, air faeries or sylphs. They may be evoked but not created they are true beings . Bardon expresses this in Part 1 Theory Section 12 The Astral Plane (p 22 of this ebook version )
Elementaries are thought forms which are not truly alive according to Bardon they are naturally created thoughtforms of humans and deliberately created thought forms of magicians . The elmentaries can be created to do a task .
But the confusion lies when he says later that elementals can also be created in Step VII in Magic Physical Training (p 94 of this ebook version ) which seems to contradict himself . (Could it be a translation problem?- ed.)
"The difference between and "elemental" and an "elementary" is that an elemental is produced on the basis of deliberate thought forms with the help of the magician's imagination and willpower and works mainly on the mental plane for the magician's or other people's benefit.
An elementary on the other hand is far more penetrating and subtle in its effect because it is being created from one or several elements . In the light of practical examples , I will explain the real procreation of an elementary as thoroughly as possible , demonstrating the manner in which the magician has to create an elementary . The intuition acquired by the previous training certainly will help the magician to contrive his own practice , responsive to the purpose he aims at. According to his ethical development , he will never dare to crate elementaries for evil purposes, the invisible world would certainly vow ferocious revenge on him, because through the knowledge of how to create elementaries, the magician has got a plentitude of power which allows him to achieve anything on the mental, astral and material level he chooses. He must always consider that it is he himself who is responsible for his deeds and not the elementary he has created. The elementaries are compliant tools in the hands of the magician, following his order blindly and granting every desire to him regardless whether a bad thing has to be turned to good account or the other way around. "
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/ ... cseen.html (http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,2737.0/topicseen.html)