Healing other persons and about "direct energy raising" vs "

[Aquu]

Hello.
I couldn't find answers in Your books and online works, so I think it's good place to ask.

Firstly about healing other people. It's obvious that energy should be transfered through arms and palms but where from? From sub-navel storage center or maybe it's better to raise energy through legs and then torso, arms, palms? I've read that energy in sub-navel is someway transformed so it's hard to me to chose a method. And should I use sponging or river-like feeling?

Another question - when I'm raising energy through my legs into sub-navel (with sponging) even after 30 minutes I feel only subtle heaviness (sometimes the heaviness disappears and I don't feel nothing at all) ...but after 2 minutes (sic!) of "direct sub-navel energy raising" (without sponging, but with river-like feeling) sub-navel becomes bigger, more responsive and i feel it's really FULL, even after 2 hours. Did You met with that?
Can You explain why that method "do not cover whole energy body" - did u mean head? "Two part storage circuit" also can exclude head, but You didn't sat it's not recommended like about "direct sub-navel energy raising".

Regards,
Aquu :wink:

[CFTraveler]

Hello Aquu.
I'm going to ask you to repost one part of the question in the 'Ask Robert' thread again, because I wasn't sure what the question was and I know Robert's busy and will probably be confused also.
Here is the part of the question that has already been answered in one way or another:

Firstly about healing other people. It's obvious that energy should be transfered through arms and palms but where from? From sub-navel storage center or maybe it's better to raise energy through legs and then torso, arms, palms? Technique-wise, when I took Rober't course, the procedure was to raise energy through the feet, legs, torso, heart center, arms, palms. (In other words, raising energy from the earth to be transformed in the heart center and then outflowing through the palms).
To put it into Robert's words:

"Healing comes from the heart. No matter how you describe it, the essence of healing involves a spiritual act of mature compassion and unselfish love. Simply put, healers raise, generate and/or project spiritual energies that are beneficial to the health of their patients. These energies flow from healers into the subtle spiritual bodies of their patients, working on the causal, subtle and gross levels. This ultimately affects patient's physical bodies and minds, thereby causing healing..."
Metaphysically speaking, Robert wrote:
"energy flows from the causal level, takes on elemental form and intent in the subtle level, and then physically manifests in the gross physical level as the finished product. Metaphysically speaking, on the causal and subtle levels, universal energy divides into the basic elemental forms: fire, earth, air, water and spirit. These are the elements of creation. These manifest in various combinations in the physical universe where they create physical matter and life.

All matter and all life forms are composed of elemental energies. Invisibly permeating the entire physical universe beneath the surface lays an infinite sea of potential energy. All living things rely on this energy for life and health. More to the point, human beings have complex energy bodies that are intimately connected with this sea of universal life force energy. The more energy that flows through a person's energy body, the healthier and more vital and powerful will be..."

http://www.astraldynamics.com/search.as ... erenceID=8 (http://www.astraldynamics.com/search.asp?Search=healing&Type=0&ReferenceID=8)



I've read that energy in sub-navel is someway transformed so it's hard to me to chose a method. And should I use sponging or river-like feeling? Whatever you feel the most. Either is fine.


Can You explain why that method "do not cover whole energy body" - did u mean head? "Two part storage circuit" also can exclude head, but You didn't sat it's not recommended like about "direct sub-navel energy raising". This is a bit confusing to me- could you post a link to Robert's words exactly?

[CFTraveler]

NEW-V2. Page 33 - about "Two Part storage circuit" (sponging)

If the full body circuit given above does not suit you for some reason, or if you find it too difficult, please feel free to stick with the Two Part storage circuit, as given earlier. This is a much simpler and easier circuit to do and will have the same general result, i.e., causing whole energy body development. Its more important to have some type of energy circuit that works for you than it is to follow my directions here to the letter.

Aquu wrote:
"Two Part storage circuit" in NEW exclude head, energy is sponging through arms, chest, and then sub-navel. Arm and legs are sponging separately, in turns.

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NEW-V2. Page 34 - about "Direct Sub-Navel Energy Raising" (river-like feeling, sucking into sub-navel)

This technique is very versatile and can be done anywhere and anytime, to take advantage of high energy areas and situations. But this should not be used to replace the full body circuit. Direct energy raising, while effective as an energy raising method, does not cover the entire energy body. This is simply a useful alternative energy raising method.
(...)
All the above actions create a strong energy demand in the Sub-Navel. Energy will be drawn into the body through the hands and feet in response to this energy demand. Again, this should not be used to replace the full body circuit, but can be very useful under certain circumstances.

In "Direct Sub-Navel Energy Raising" energy moves through the same areas as in "Two Part storage circuit" but theres no sponging - only constant river-like feeling in arms and legs at the same time (+sucking in sub-navel), so I don't understand why one is recommended and other not.[/quote:b463mvc9]
I put back in 'Ask RB' your clarified topic, as I don't think I'm qualified to answer this one. If I were to read it maybe I'd get it, but the closest thing to answer would be that the 'full body circuit' is a very good method, and I wouldn't use anything else instead of it. Why he recommends one and not the other is for him to answer, why it's back in 'Ask RB'.

[Aquu]

Thanks.
Can You edit this topic
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=11684 (http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=11684)
once again and add:

"When I'm raising energy witch "Two Part storage circuit" even after 30 minutes I feel only subtle heaviness (sometimes the heaviness disappears and I don't feel nothing at all) ...but after 2 minutes (sic!) of "Direct Sub-Navel Energy Raising" my sub-navel becomes bigger, more responsive and i feel it's really FULL, even after 2 hours. Did You met with that?"

Thx in advance :)

[CFTraveler]

Done.