How do I erase a negative thought-form?

[Akorah]

My psychological egoic sense of self, seems to have developed a false sense of self, a negative thought-form that my psychological mind likes to attach itself to for god knows why.

I know what the thoughtform is and can sense it intuitively.

Is there a way of eliminating this thought-form completely? It is based on past experience/memories and illusory conceptions. If my mind strays from the present moment into a psychological sense of self then I experience this unpleasant thought-form that has added onto what used to be a good sense of self.

[blacktiger057]

Well, if by negative thoughtform you mean negative energy, then you can probably get rid of it with a few countermeasures. Create a shield around yourself and imagine whatever is bothering you bursting into flames. You can't destroy energy, but you can change it and send it away. Never underestimate the power of thought.

If by thoughtform you mean a part of yourself that you do not like at all, then it will probably take time to get rid of it. I'll explain a simple banishing ritual that you could use, but first could you clarify what you mean by thoughtform (at times, the English language can be so imprecise!)?

Scott

[Akorah]

no its definately a part of me that i dont like.

I know the LBRP and LBRH but that doesn't get rid of something within me created by me?

i know what you mean about the english language..

what i mean when i say thought-form is more like impression, or an idea, a conception or a negatively structured way of thought towards a current situation based on a conceptualised belief about how i am being perceived. I believe people are getting the wrong impression about me, so the impression has already been made and its like something that lingers in my periphery creating a bad vibe or bad perception from others.

[ButterflyWoman]

Well, it depends on the thoughtform and what it is and how you use it. In some cases, simply the strong intention to get rid of it will work, BUT you usually need something else with which to replace it, or it keeps coming back in various ways.

So a combination of intention to dissolve it and positive affirmations or visualisations may help.

Without knowing the specifics of what it is or how your ego-mind works to build these things, that's just general advice, of course.

[Akorah]

Positive affirmations work so well for me! yet i never use them.. I just always forget to :(

I wish i could remember to use positive affirmations all the time, I will have to make an effort to remember.

I think I may have erased the thoughtform.. although blacktiger suggested it was an actual entity.. either way I feel I have rid myself of it now after an intense 2 hour long meditation session which involved many different visualisations and magnetising my field to specific emotions, specific things that i want to attract. The thought-form was creating a magnetic field around me of something I didn't want to attract, something i didn't want to put out there energy-wise. So instead of trying to erase the thought-form I have tried to replace or rather convert what type of energy is magnetised when this thought-form arises.

If you don't know what im talking about when i say magnetise its like when you go to a club that has a good vibe (vibration) or good atmosphere.. the club would be filled with happy positive emotions, people are all in a good positive state and this magnetises the area around them creating more of the same. So when someone is sick its usually because they are magnetising sickness/negativity around them. I stood next to a very sick person not long ago and when i was close enough i could sense the sickness they were projecting which had engulfed them.

[chips]

My psychological egoic sense of self, seems to have developed a false sense of self, a negative thought-form that my psychological mind likes to attach itself to for god knows why.

I know what the thoughtform is and can sense it intuitively.

Is there a way of eliminating this thought-form completely? It is based on past experience/memories and illusory conceptions. If my mind strays from the present moment into a psychological sense of self then I experience this unpleasant thought-form that has added onto what used to be a good sense of self.

I had the same problem a while ago, and i got rid of it temporarily. everybody has insecurities, but i just had waayy too many. what happened was, is that i kept focusing on what i believed other people wanted me to be like, and how they would prefer me to look or act. i was mentally putting myself down, and this quickly creates an internal thought-form. this is a thought, or idea, that is internally generated and cannot simply be banished by using counter-measures. anyway at that time, i was experimenting with visualization and how it affected the mind. so, i created a visualization technique where i was able to transform the negative thought-form into a postive thought-form. here's what i did:

I visualized that i was standing in a big garden, or an area for planting. The area was dark. I took a few breaths and held in mind that i wanted to see a representation of my negative thought-form. So, i suddenly found a bush in front of me. i re-told myself mentally that the bush was a representation of ideas that other people have planted in my mind. i then saw myself taking out a large silver sword and cutting the bush, then taking out a torch and burning it. Then, i would visualize myself grabbing deep within the roots and pulling it out, and then throwing it into a haze of nothingness, or i'd watch it disintegrate.
this visualization is about Conversion of Energetic Idea(CED).
so, i then visualized myself pulling seeds out of my pocket and i'd tell myself that the seed was positive and that it would grow into postive ideas and beliefs abot myself and my social appearance. i think i visualized them glowing too.
but i then threw them in the hole which was left when i yanked out the negative thought-form. I covered the seeds with some moist dirt, and i watched a green sprout arise from the dirt.

This technique can be very effective. Negative thought-forms that are internally generated seem to feed and "grow" everytime negative thoughts, or the same type of thought, is formed. And so, this technique's purpose is to change the thought-form that takes advantage of negative thoughts, into a thought-form that takes advantage of positive thoughts.

Internally generated thought-forms are, well, internally generated. However, they ALWAYS have an outside source (as far as i can tell; i may be wrong). The affect of this technique may be temporary. Different people have different mental abilities when it comes to using mental techniques to make life changes. If this technique is done very successfully at first, then the belief system of the person should be changed, and they should have a better self-image of themselves. An important way to stop this negative thought-form from coming back is to realize who or what is the outside source that is causing this negative thought to form inside of you. it can be anybody, even your own parents. This is why it's very important to watch what you say when talking to somebody, because you could very well be affecting them in a negative and unnoticable manner. anyway, the source may not be able to affect you again, depending on your mental skill. And please remember, that only through physical action can you hope to achieve maximum personal transformation(at least that's the way i see it); life is all about transformation and change. Hope this helps!

[chips]

I also would like to add that this technique can be difficult if you're not too skilled in visualization. I've learned that these kinds of techniques are way more effective if you're in a trance. Actually, you dont even need to be in a deep or full trance; a light trance will do just fine. I'm also adding more and affective "plugs" to the technique.

[orygbus]

You can try imagining cleansing your energy body & chakras with violet energy, slowly and thoroughly, while using your will to COMMAND the thought-forms (and sometimes other entities) to leave.

Then create a violet bubble shield around each chakra and tell the shield to protect you from all negative thought-forms and entities.

Then create another violet bubble shield around the entire body, and tell the shield to protect you from all negative thought-forms and entities.

You can also use affirmations during the cleansing....try asking your higher-self and angels etc for help, just remember to thank them...

Also practice the twin heart meditation: http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/energy ... tation.asp (http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/energy-healing/pranic-healing/healing-meditation.asp)

[blacktiger057]

Positive affirmations work so well for me! yet i never use them.. I just always forget to


You could make signs with your affirmations on them, and then hang the signs at places you look at often. This technique worked really well for me. The first thing I saw every morning was positive affirmations hanging from my window, so I never forgot.

[blacktiger057]

I think I may have erased the thoughtform.. although blacktiger suggested it was an actual entity.. either way I feel I have rid myself of it now after an intense 2 hour long meditation session which involved many different visualisations and magnetising my field to specific emotions, specific things that i want to attract. The thought-form was creating a magnetic field around me of something I didn't want to attract, something i didn't want to put out there energy-wise. So instead of trying to erase the thought-form I have tried to replace or rather convert what type of energy is magnetised when this thought-form arises.

Great! I'm glad you got rid of it!
:)

From what I sensed in the scanning, it was not an actual demon but it definately was a mass of negativity. Not an actual part of you, like a habit or emotion, but something that you may have created with your mind somehow. I also think that the negative energy was most apparent in the third eye chakra...so my guess is that this is where it originated?
I have never heard of using the method you used...if you were able to transmute the energy, then it might have just been a 'cloud' of negative energy from some place or another (maybe you created it, even?). But it doesn't sound like it was an actual demonic entity, just lots of bad energy.

Out of curiosity, what meditation did you use to do this?[/quote]

[Akorah]

Thanks for all the excellent replies.. I will try all of them out! :)

BlackTiger.. I am part of a private torrent site that offers NLP/hypnotic audio files amongst other things. One of the hypnotic audio files I got from there was something called "Masculinity Enhancement" which helps to magnetise your field or rather just make you feel comfortable when around women, so that you have no anxiety, and instead you are creating positive emotions, sexual energy, masculine energy, etc. What they do is make you think of a memory where you felt said emotion, revivifying the feeling, amplifying it.. then using whole body breathing and meridian circulation amongst other stuff to incorporate the feeling into your energy field and as part of every cell and your breathing. It also has that garden visualisation and a few others. So while under trance I thought about the idea/concept that was producing the negative energy, and tried converting it into the positive emotions i was already feeling.

[Korpo]

This weekend I came over two facts that might relate to this:

I re-read Monroe's "Ultimate Journeys" in which he recounts his view of the human mind. About emotions he discerns several layers - for example one more "out" where we intermingle with the emotions of others, one more "in" where we prepare and present our self-image in "reply" to that outer layer. Deeper in comes the animalistic sub-self which colors our perceptions by what comes with having a body. And even further in is the personality core that is the source of the really deep and profound emotions. Interaction with others filters through these layers, and we are usually not (fully) aware of all of these layers as well. I think it is a good model.

When listening to Bruce Frantzis' "The Tao of Letting Go" he was talking about how emotions work and described how emotions go "beyond us", how they connect outward, and if you resolve them, how this resolves both outward and inward.

IMO this again suggests that what we experience as our "inner" emotions is more like a constant exchange with our surroundings, most often in rigid patterns as we follow habit or even act out neurosis. Blockage removes the free flow of energy and creates negative emotions, and over time they accumulate in certain trouble spots as like attracts like. The reduced flow reduces further.

I once came over a description that said that our emotions are relocations of energy when we try to adapt to change in our surroundings. Blockage is resistance to change, where we hold on to a concept, an idea, a memory, a habit, a feeling, an expectation, etc. When the emotional system tries to adapt to outside change, it triggers those blockages making us feel negative emotions and giving rise to habitual reactions. Attachment is the same as resistance to change, fear of change.

I personally think the Inner Dissolving Process (http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=9353) can be helpful in reducing such blockage and restore free flow of energy. I actually prefer it to an approach of visualisation or to trying to replace a bad habit with a good habit. IMO we don't need good habits (in the long run), but spontaneous expression of our inherent good nature which goes beyond habitual behaviour. Good habits can be helpful, too, of course.

Take good care,
Oliver

[Akorah]

I've been wanting to ask you something Oliver relating to meridians.

But first, in reply to your post, I believe you are right.. I definitely had some sort of fear of change before.. and dislike will attract more dislike. But the emotional dissolving only works some of the time.. it didn't work for this thing because I believe it may have been supported by somebody else's view of me.

I have been learning tai chi and qigong recently from a qualified instructor, and what i have learnt so far is that inbalances stem from too much yin, or too much yang (too much off either positive or negative energy.. we are supposed to have an equal balance of both). I went to an accupuncturist and was told I have way to much yang and not enough yin. Is there any way to fix this without regular accupuncture? I was also wondering if you know which way the meridians are supposed to flow? in what direction exactly? for example when you breath in, and you are breathing energy in from the earth and above, are you having the energy come up the inner or outer meridians? what happens when you breathe out? It would be very helpful for me if I knew which way each meridian is supposed to flow in accordance with the in and out breath and the main storage centre. Thanks!

[Korpo]

Hello, Akorah.

About the meridians... I think that can be deducted. When you do the Small Circulation Qigong/meditation you send energy along the back and front vessels. This energy fills the vessels and then overflows into the 12 primary Yin and Yang meridians. From this it should follow that energy flows during Small Circulation from where the meridian branches off of its vessel to its termination point - in the hands and feet.

However, this is not set in stone:

When you do Nei Dan Gong - the Inner Elixir work, you work the energies of the torso and let them flow out to your limbs. This is predominantly mental energy work where you directly work with the awareness. Energy overflows from the vessels into the limbs through the meridians. This is for example how Small Circulation works.

When you do Wai Dan Gong - the Outer Elixir work, you work the limbs and excess energy is transported from the limbs into the torso. Here you primarily work muscles and tissues like martial artists and the increased energy flow makes your body healthy.

Perhaps you can help yourself with breathing exercises - if you practise "normal" abdominal breathing (expand belly with in breath, flatten with out breath) the body gets more Yin. Gently pushing out the Huiyin (the lowest point of the pelvis) on in and drawing it in on out breath is said to help the process. Focus your mind on your abdomen's center while doing this might help as well. Stay with the breath. Making the inhalation longer might help, too. See Dr Yang's "Qigong Meditation: Small Circulation" for details on these breathing exercises.

Hope this helps,
Oliver

[Akorah]

Thanks for replying Oliver.

I already know the microscopic orbit, and deep belly breathing, along with pranic breathing and breath of fire.

What I find helps me is to ground myself all the time... eg. imaging i have roots going deep into the earth and just constantly send all my energy down into it.. that way if a negative thought pops into my mind it goes straight into the earth rather than out into the surrounding space where people can pick it up subconsciously.

[Ayan01]

Hi,

Brought this one back as this is relevant,


My question -
Can people take a strong thought from you?

[ButterflyWoman]

Can people take a strong thought from you?
Depends what you mean by "take". Take it away, as in, you no longer have it or are able to think it? Well.... I never say never, but it seems extremely unlikely. I guess it might be possible under some situations, maybe. I'm thinking of some sort of therapy, maybe, where a practitioner helps to "remove" intrusive thoughts through, perhaps, hypnosis or some other healing form. But generally speaking, I would say no, this isn't at all likely.

If you mean can other people pick up on some strong thought you have, definitely yes. They're often (usually) unaware of what they're sensing or its source, but people can definitely pick up on the general mood and vibe of certain strong thoughts, at least in my experience. This is especially true of certain kinds of psychic and empathic people, or so I have observed.

This is why shielding is such an important habit to be in. Not only do you protect yourself from random energies, psychic attacks (deliberate and otherwise) and so forth, you can protect yourself from "broadcasting" your every emotion and thought.

[CFTraveler]

Imagine you're a flashlight and you're shining bright. Can you 'steal' a ray of light that has been pointed at you? No, by the time it reached you it was already in your space.
I think it's like that.