EM Pulsers, Negs and Possession 2

[McArthur]

I've started this in its own thread from This Thread (http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=303&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90) as this is specifically about the possibility that Negs are using subtle Em fields to interfere with humans.

A post if mine with some links from there:
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I have been trying to work out something similar to do with magnetic pulsers and things for quite a while myself. I too used to own a Trifield meter and was picking up all sorts of anomalous readings on the EM scale. I definitely think the stronger negs are somehow using subtle EM fields via the central nervous system to affect humans so something that can disrupt EM fields may possibly also disrupt their attacks.

I wrote some things about it on the old AP forums in this thread:

Doesn't work (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15637&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=40)






THIS ONE DOES ;o) including access to my other posts THERE... (http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?478-EM-Pulsers-Negs-and-Possession-2)







One interesting part was this:

http://www.harvardmagazine.com/on-line/050447.html


Researchers at McLean Hospital's Brain Imaging Center have found that the oscillating magnetic fields of an MRI scanner (a machine commonly used in medicine to produce high-resolution images of internal organs and tissues) can immediately improve the moods of depressed patients suffering from bipolar disorder, a psychiatric illness characterized by alternating periods of mania and depression. A controlled study recently published in the American Journal of Psychiatry indicated that 23 out of 30 bipolar patients(77 percent) reported an improved mood after receiving the scan�and that 100 percent of the patients who were not taking antidepressant medication indicated a better mood.

{snip}

In fact, researchers first noticed the scan's mood-enhancing effects by accident, while conducting an unrelated study of medications' effectiveness on bipolar subjects. During that study, many subjects emerging from their EP-MRSI exams remarked to the technician on how much better they felt than before the scan. Some were even cracking jokes as they departed. "There were enough patients who told us�and these were unbiased observations�that we thought we ought to pay attention," Cohen explains. For some, the elevated mood lasted for hours; for others, it persisted as long as a week.


I wrote:

"They don't know why it works, but I do!!!

They're inadvertantly zapping negs from people who don't know they have them!!! Depression, Bi-polar? Negs. Want a cure? Zap em with some strong EM pulses! (but do it regularly over a week or two to stop re-attachment, possibly getting Reiki healing for the auric holes where the negs are getting into the aura)

Now I just need one of these to test out my theory:

http://www.excel.net/~jaguar/MMP.html "

The above link isn't working now but it was to an EM pulse machine.

And:

http://www.christianity.com/partner/Art ... 40,00.html (http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID4820%7CCHID103349%7CCIID260840,00.html)


Berman and his colleagues recently applied electromagnetic stimulation to schizophrenics who daily suffered with auditory hallucinations. Reported in the British medical journal, The Lancet, (March 25, 2000) Berman et al. was able to use electromagnetic stimulation to reduce auditory hallucinations in 11 of 12 schizophrenic patients over six-months.

More at the other old thread.
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Now my reply to mick.


This link courtesy of the Daily Grail http://www.dailygrail.com/ might also be of interest re. the used of magnetic fields. http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051017/ ... 017-4.html (http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051017/full/051017-4.html)
Excellent article! Glad to see others are catching up :wink: as I was on about this back in 2002 ! :idea: 8) :)

Link to my post back that doesn't work (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1290&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0)

I think I'm going to try and find out what kind of EM pulses they used on those 11 schizophrenic patients that got rid of their 'voices', if I get get hold of a copy of the published paper. And with micks article, does 5 hertz mean 5 pulses per second? It's just that I am looking at different pulsers and the one I am thinking of buying can do up to 10 pulses per second.

Here's some really interesting stuff about an EM pulse machine curing cancer (I've long thought that the 'lumps' of cancer may be caused by neg attachments, I go into this more on the Other old AP Thread (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15637&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=40) ) and other illnesses! They even did proper scientific studies and tests paid for by the French government!

http://www.cheniere.org/priore/index.html

The best all round article to read on it is this one from Esquire July 1975 (its pdf so you need the Adobe pdf reader):

http://www.cheniere.org/priore/esquire.pdf

[McArthur]

Here's a bit more about the possibility of EM pulses curing cancer:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3458675.stm

Energy pulses could target cancer

[picture]The field can penetrate cancer cells

Doctors may one day be able to use powerful electric fields to help destroy cancer cells from outside.

US researchers say they can use energy pulses - which last a tiny fraction of a second - to attack the cell without harming its healthy neighbours.

The pulses do not physically destroy the cell, but appear to start a process which makes them "commit suicide".

The technique, reported in New Scientist magazine, could also be used to tackle obesity, say experts.

Currently, surgery, chemotherapy or radiotherapy are used to destroy cancer cells.

The "nanopulse" system is closest to radiotherapy, but may perhaps offer a gentler alternative to radiation.

Non-invasive

The electric field could in theory be focused on a tumour sited deep inside the body using antennas placed around the body.

By fine-tuning the frequency of the field, it may be possible to target only particular cell types, and hopefully spare healthy tissue around the tumour.

The short duration of the pulses - measured in hundreds of microseconds - are designed to prevent the outer membrane of the cell "charging up" fully and acting as a shield for its contents.

Researchers at the University of Southern California at Los Angeles, and Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, have shown that, in a laboratory dish at least, "nanopulses" can kill tumour cells.

The Virginian team has also slowed the growth of tumours in mice using the technique.

'Reaching in'

Professor Tom Vernier, from the Los Angeles team, said: "The effects of these pulses are fairly dramatic.

"We see it as reaching into the cell and manipulating internal structures."

The only detectable physiological change within the cell is a release of calcium from a structure called the endoplasmic reticulum.

Although this would not seem to be able to have any direct impact on whether a cancer cell lives or dies, it is taken as evidence of the power of the pulse to influence the make-up of the cell.

The Virginia team has also found that they can use the same method to trigger suicide in cells which can become fat cells - perhaps offering a technique to help control obesity, they believe.

In the UK, a team at Imperial College London and Loughborough University is pursuing the same goal.

Dr Michael Kong, from Loughborough, said that the use of electric fields in this way was a "hot area".

"There are only about three or four groups in the world working on this, but I would expect others to start when they see the potential.

"It's an exciting new field - no-one knows exactly how this effect happens."
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Here's an old Lancet article about Lightning curing cancer:

http://www.papimi.gr/lancet.htm

a snippet:

"About thirty years ago, I attended Reuben S,---, a farm labourer, residing at Langtoft, on the Yorkshire Wolds, who suffered from cancer of the inferior lip and part of the chin for about a year, and who had agreed to an operation for their removal. In the meantime he under took to assist a poor farmer for a day in ploughing his land. During this Occupation he was struck down by lightning, and carried home in a state of insensibility. Both of his horses were killed, and the wooden beam of the plough was split and reduced to considerable fragments. Soon after the occurrence I visited, and found the ploughman in a state of great prostration, and emitting a strong odour of ozone, indicating electrical condensation of the adherent oxygen. As soon as reaction took place I bled him from the arm, which act constituted the whole of the treatment. What seems to be the most astonishing feature in the case is the healing process which was set up in the lip and chin soon after the accident. The cancer gradually lessened, and in a few weeks every trace of the diseased structure disappeared, and for ten years he enjoyed complete freedom from his former suffering and signs of the disease."

If I remember correctly, someone in the old AP thread also quotes about someone being cured of something possibly neg related by being struck by lightning also.

[Hegemony]

I thought electromagnetic fields were harmful?

[Apex]

Anything is harmful, given enough exposure.

Stuff all around us in our daily lives give off EM fields, since our civilization makes extensive use of them.

So generally, unless you enter an area that has signs posted about strong fields (like those that warn those who have pacemakers), you are not exposed to enough to be harmful. You would know if you were.

[mick]

This site covers the use of pulsed electro-magnetic fields. http://www.uml.edu/centers/CHP/CompMed/biomag.htm

The relevant section starts half way down the page with the following paragraph. Nothing new about the method... :)

A highly successful use of biomagnetics is in the treatment of bone fractures. In the U.S, the first study using pulsed electro-magnetic fields (PEMF) produced by a current passing through coils positioned on either side of the bone was performed and shown to be effective in 1974. These first trials were rendered on beagles but the process was quickly adapted to humans. In 1977, Basset et al., used the technique to treat non-united tibial fractures with success being achieved in 10 out of 14 cases (Lunt, 1982). Further studies have demonstrated its effectiveness and the technique was FDA approved by 1979 (Trock, Bollet, & Markoll, 1994). Other versions of the treatment have since been developed and studied with very high success rates.

[McArthur]

This site covers the use of pulsed electro-magnetic fields. http://www.uml.edu/centers/CHP/CompMed/biomag.htm

The relevant section starts half way down the page with the following paragraph. Nothing new about the method... :)

That is an excellent article thanks for that mick! No I wasn't saying the use of Em fields for health problems was new but as far as I am aware the idea that Inorganic Beings may be using subtle Em fields to influence humans, and causing some of these illnesses that are 'cured' by Em pulses, is as far as I am aware. The only other person I have seen suggest this apart from myself is Robert Bruce. I would certainly be very interested if someone else had any theories similar to this as I still do get doubts about whether I am looking in the right direction even though my gut feeling is that there is definitely something to this. There are some things in that article you linked I want to comment on when i get time. :idea:

[McArthur]

I thought electromagnetic fields were harmful?
Yes some of them are! I related in one of the threads I link how I had a "spirit" (neg) around me that was giving off subtle Em fields in the 5 microtesla range and also posted my thoughts that it is these Em fields given off by certain Inorganic beings that may be causing some illnesses (I also linked articles showing that some Em fields may be causing illnesses such as cancer). If a person has a small neg/parasite attached and it is constantly giving off a small Em field (as most 'ghosts' do) then that is causing a disruption to the victims energy at that spot (which is what I believe might be causing cancerous lumps in some cases. Especially as Robert says that lumps may be a sign of neg attachment in his book PPSD).

The idea behind the magnetic pulsers is that they are not used 24/7 but perhaps an hour a day in order to try and somehow dislodge the attached Neg and therefore remove the subtle Em field causing the problem - fighting fire with fire. Which is why they are finding that Em pulses are making some cancerous growths to stop growing and eventually heal (see Esquire 1975 article linked in earlier post). My (and RB's i think) thoughts on this are that because the negs are somehow Em in nature that a strong Em field may be able to affect them and disrupt their activities and attachment points.

[McArthur]

A couple of interesting links discussing the possible Electromagnetic nature of consciousness.

http://www.consciousentities.com/pockett.htm
"We have become used to hearing that novel theories of quantum mechanics might somehow account for consciousness. A theory which invokes only common or garden electromagnetism seems refreshingly simple by comparison - almost naively simple at first sight. But such is the hypothesis put forward by Susan Pockett in her book 'The Nature of Consciousness'. The hypothesis can be briefly stated - 'consciousness is identical with certain spatiotemporal patterns in the electromagnetic field'."

http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/cemi.htm
The conscious electromagnetic field theory

http://www.consciousentities.com/mcfadden.htm

[McArthur]

I'll add some quotes of my posts from this old thread about EM fields and Negs (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1290&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0)

For quite some time now i have known that certain Inorganic Entities can be somehow linked to Electro Magnetic fields. I remember reading online on some paranormal investigator website of how "Ghost hunters" will take an EM meter with them to alert them of some presence. For instance;

http://www.ghostwatchuk.org/ghost-photography.htm
"It is also believed that ghosts are Electro-magnetic in origin. The energy a ghost gives off will cause a disruption in the location's magnetic field, which then becomes detectable using a measuring device. The instrument used to detect this is called an Electro-Magnetic Field Detector."

So i decided to buy one because i have some kind of presence around for a while now. As soon as i recieved it and turned it on i started picking up large fluctuations in the EM spectrum. The actual meter i used is the Natrual Trifield EM Meter and is specially designed to filter out man-made EM fields (hence the term Natural).
http://www.trifield.com/EMF_natural.htm

This can be used to measure *changes* in local EM field and is popular with Paranormal investigators. I was picking up changes in the EM field of around 5 to 6 microteslas. Then, all of a sudden, the EM field started going haywire, the needle was flicking from zero to 5 like morse code, and the tone on the meter was going beep beep beep! I knew it was the entity doing this and told it to do 1 beep for yes and 2 beeps for no. AND IT DID IT. I have witnesses to this.
So anyway, not only do i know that the EM field changes when an entity is present, i know that, whatever IT is, it can *make changes to the EM field as and when it wants to*. How it does this is far beyond me right now, i just know, with scientific proof, that it can. Here is something i noticed though. The Meter is made only to pick up *changes* in the Em field. After a few seconds of any change the needle should *normally* go back to zero until yet *another* change occurs. But this entity was able to keep the needle on 5 microteslas for as long as it liked, THEREFORE, it must have been *oscillating* (vibrating?)the actual EM Field to keep the needle in that position!
For instance. I tried holding a magnet near the EM Meter to repeat what the entity was doing and i was unable to do it. Every time i put the magnet near the meter, the needle would move and then go straight (within 1 second) back to zero. So not only is this entity capable of manipulating the EM field it can also somehow oscillate it. Im not too up on physics and need to research this more but doesnt this mean it is changing the frequency of the field?

Something else i noticed. I have an electric beard trimmer, and i started to notice than when i was using my trimmer, the *buzzing* sound in my ears/head would almost disappear. I used my EM meter to measure what type of field the trimmer was giving off and it was in the EM range. Furthurmore, using the beard trimmer, i was able to make the needle on the meter stay at around the 6 Microtesla mark and stop it from returning back to zero. Somehow i believe that an oscillating EM field is able to interfere with what this entity was doing to me, buzzing in head with a numb feeling.

I just did a search on EM fields and brain chemistry due to something i read in another post here and came up with some VERY interesting information. Read this;

http://www.erowid.org/spirit/devices/de ... cle1.shtml (http://www.erowid.org/spirit/devices/devices_article1.shtml)
(a snippet)
"We can use TMS to prevent people from seeing a visual stimulus or make it hard for them to speak", he says. They can also make people move their limbs without any voluntary control."

and;

"In scientific terminology, he uses a specific, precisely timed, repetitive signal - one dubbed the "Thomas Pulse" - to create a "sensed presence" in the test subject's brain. Some volunteers have reported feelings of pleasant detachment, while others have broken into a panic, convinced the test chamber is "hexed". And some have had direct experience of the divine. "


I now believe that one of the ways negs control or affect thier victims is through the manipulation of subtle EM fields. In the above where it mentions they managed to "make people move their limbs without any voluntary control" is so similar to possession experiences that i am totally convinced that this is partly how negs take over Human beings. My tingling and buzzing sensations in my head are a result of this neg trying to directly interfere with the brain and the electrical impulses as well as (possibly) brain chemistry using its ability to manipulate subtle EM fields just like the Health authorities are now learning to do.

This is not to say that these entities are EM in nature, i dont know this, but they CAN manipulate EM fields.

Does any of what i have written make sense? Please add your comments good or bad.

Now i need to find out if there is any way of neutralising an Em field, or at least something that can affect an Em field. Any ideas?

McArthur,

Just thinking about how a strong magnet can erase a cassette tape or even the magnetic imprint on a credit card, when you get an MRI, they warn you not to bring a credit card into the room.

Holding a strong magnet to an area of pain helps to remove the pain, I've experienced this myself. Just wondering if you held a strong magnet to an area that you feel has an attachment, what would this do?

Dr. Philpott who has written books on magnets, has a protocol on removing skin cancer, warts, moles from the body. So if a mole is a negative attachment, and a magnet can remove it after several days. What is the potential for this?

It's important to use the North Pole of the magnet as the south pole gives the opposite effects. Here are some interesting websites that explain the differences between North and South pole effects of a magnet.

http://www.magnetlabs.com

http://www.azunimage.com Dr. Philpott approved mags, a quote from this Dr. "cancer can not exist in a continuouslhy applied strong magnetic field". This would mean the North side as the South side actually promotes cancer. He has a protocol here for removing cancer that seems to work for people, don't know the percentage rates. This site also has powerful small magnets that would be great for mole removal.

http://www.biomagnetic.org Under the "benefits" shows pictures on effects of the different poles on bread, north side exposed bread has delay in gettin mold, south side exposed bread causes mold to grow a lot faster.

Interesting! I've often wondered about the implications of magnets and neg attachments, I'm sure there has to be a correlation. Running water creates electricity and a magnetic field, think of windmills. The Psychic Self defense book says that crossing water or a water hose breaks attacks.

I'ts VERY important to know just exactly what the North and South poles do, for example the north side can quiet a seizure while the south side can cause a seizure. North side brings oxygen to an area and decreases pain, south side repels oxygen to the area and increases pain. There is a lot to this.

I'll bet Robert's ink pens that removed the moles had magnetic properties.

The iron in hemoglobin (a property of the blood) brings oxygen to an area when north side of magnet used. Iron has long been known as a defense against negs.

A lot of implications here. Sounds like you've really done some research. Someone intelligent like yourself might be able to come up with some kind of device that really helps people under neg attack.

[jalef]

i once saw a tv report about about houses that were claimed to be haunted.

the thing that all this houses had in common was an exceptionally strong electromagnetic field. in the report they said that is because of the extensive use of a material wich name i forgotten for building the house. these fields caused halucinations and electrical devices to malfunction.

[McArthur]

Hi Miramac, yes I do own some very strong rare earth magnets as I tested these myself. While I see potential benefits for other ailments they didn't work on my resident negs. The reason for that is because they are fixed fields and not pulsing or oscillating, which the type of fields that seem to be working on certain neg related ailments I've been researching. I don't have the money at present but will have later this year and will be buying a couple of the stronger variety of Magnetic Pulsers that are out there on the market, these two look ok:

This one outputs an oscillating pulse field
http://magpulser.com/

And this one a normal (but strong) adjustable pulser.
http://www.highpowermagneticpulser.com/

This one is just way too expensive at around $50k although It seems to be helping people with various ailments.
http://www.papimi.gr/

Of course if one is good with electrics it could be possible to build your own.
http://www.perutechnologies.com/beck-hiv.html


http://old.4hv.org/index.php?board=6

McArthur,

Have you ever looked into an MWO (Multiple Wave Oscillator). This machine was invented by Georges Lakhovsky in the 1930's and has some interesting history behind it. This machine produces several interesting things like a lot of orgone, harmonic radio waves, strong magnetic field, high voltage electricity from a Tesla coil, and probably more.

Most people who sit between the two golden mean antennas for 15 minutes experience a sense of well being (this reminds me of what you said somewhere about people who have been on an MRI). The machine has been known to cure a lot of things, you can investigate on the Internet if interested. If you "google" the words: MWO Bob Beck and mediums together on the same line you will come to an interesting article on http://www.keelynet.com where the article talks about Bob running the MWO in a town with a lot of mediums and them losing connection with their guides for 2-3 weeks. This tells me that maybe things got scrambled and maybe same can be done with negs. MWO has been known to cure a lot of things like cancer, etc. but I have not proof of this, only what frequent users have told me. The MWO is pretty expensive but you can buy plans to build your own on http://www.zephyrtechnology.com. Bruce Forrester, the builder of MWO's is more than pleased to communicate with people.

[McArthur]

Miramac.. WOW! What an excellent find, I have to say. Here I am thinking I must sound crazy to think Em pulsers and the like can be used as a Neg zapper (or Ghost Buster) but others may have found something similar by accident! It certainly makes me feel a little less crazy for sure. I'll add the link and a few snippets:

http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00000693.htm



Ed and Bob said when they turned on the MWO, within about 30 minutes
many of the mediums in the town noticed they had lost their 'guides' or
ability to make contact with the 'spirit world'....they soon realized
the MWO was the problem and ran Ed and Bob out of town. I believe they
said it was 2-3 weeks before anyone could resume any contacts.

Thus the moniker of 'Electronic Ghost Buster' bestowed on the MWO.

And:


It would be interesting if someone would take an MWO to a site of
poltergeist or other paranormal manifestations and turn it on to see
what happens. If it works, it could become a service to those claiming
to be plagued by such things.

Well I'm certainly interested in those MWO's now but you're right that they are expensive... thanks for alerting me to this article !

[McArthur]

This article on the "Dotto Ring" looks interesting also:

http://www.keelynet.com/biology/dotto.htm

[McArthur]

There are some MWO's for sale on Ebay that are slightly cheaper:

http://tinyurl.com/oaxvn

Or Bruce Forrester does a 90 day warranty where one can claim a 75% refund, which might be another idea for testing (at least you could recoup a large chunk of the outlay if it didn't show any results).

These Dr Clarke type zappers look interesting for the price.

http://tinyurl.com/mfkgf

[DAN]

When my neg first started on me it had me get rid of a couple new
welding magnets that i had in the house. These are very strong rated at
100# I retreived these back and took the metal frame off, there round
shaped like a donut.(don't know if that has anything to do with the effectiveness) But i had alot of trouble getting to sleep with the neg doing
the skin crawling thing they do! I shoved this in a small pillow and keep
it next to my chest/ gut area. Best thing i have found to date to keep it
away from infected area. It's like it can't share the same space as the
magnet!

Dan

[McArthur]

Adding this post from another thread HERE (http://tinyurl.com/le7zg) to keep this info organised.



i find mine hate my sonic toothbrush! (did i already mention that?!?)
i now take it to bed with me...just in case. ;)

Really?! This is the type of anecdotal evidence I am looking for. So how do you use the toothbrush (I have a sonic one too and was thinking of using that the other day until I found this mini fan!) and what happens, how long for etc. Please do give lots of details!


ordered hulda clarks "cure for all diseases", bcuz i don't have it, and not only is she one of the leading authorities on parasites (and a super-cool-momma), but there are plans for her 'zapper'. small battery operated device for cleansing the body and destroying a host of nasties.

Yes I've seen her stuff, didn't she get arrested recently? There's another EM pulser maker who got imprisoned by the Feds: http://tinyurl.com/mwsdd

I also find that vaccuming my flat lifts a lot of negativity and can even stop a direct neg attack. Is it the EM pulses coming from the motor or perhaps a combination of things?


why pay 300 bucks for something you can build for 20?!?

Yes exactly, but you'd have to teach yourself some electronics if you don't know already, which can put some people off. There's some cheaper versions of the clarke zapper being sold on ebay.


definitely think there's something to all this, but very little if any experimentation in this realm.

There is experimentation with these devises but none I have seen which are testing against negs. They are zapping negs with them but don't know it, which is why no-one really knows why these devices are working. Perhaps we should get a group of us here with neg problems to do some testing. The little fans are cheap enough and can work up to more powerful EM pulsers and other devices. If there was enough of us we could pool our resources and buy one small device and each take turns to have it for a few weeks at a time for testing? Those without neg problems but with an interest in this area could be invited to donate a couple dollars. :?:


NiK has a definite point with the elctro-shock therapy. i think.
also that the cure is short-lived. where they creep back, and symptoms return after a while.

yes this is what I think is happening too. I've linked a few articles in the threads about EM pulsers where people getting struck by lightning etc are having miracle cures (one of them of cancer). And of course the recent trials of mental health patients where EM pulsers are ridding schizophrenics of their hallucinary voices etc.


i know for a fact (for all that's worth) that these critters travel the power grid, but there must be a certain frequency they abhor. not claiming to know a great deal about electrical/magnetic stuff, but i know the d/c (batteries) seems to be unpalatable if not dangerous to them.

I've often wondered about them using the power grid to get into homes. Or perhaps even being dragged along by the electric currents (like a fast river) by accident.


funny to think while 'logical' folks are stockpiling dry milk, tuna, and duct tape under their beds. i'm thinking tin foil, batteries, sea salt, and alligator clips! :lol:
who's crazier?!?
You know I wondered whether this constant ridicule of people trying tinfoil hats was encouraged by negs to make people think such things are stupid and not worth trying. Remember that tinfoil hats were claimed to protect people against government mind-control EM fields. Well there are EM fields being used for mind control but it aint by governments with special machines its inorganic negs. Can't you just see it that the negs got a little scared of people getting too close to their secret about EM field manipulation so have been quietly sabataging that area of research in their own nefarious ways?

I've been looking at old metal helmets on ebay or something similar as I tried the foil ( :shock: :lol: ) and it didn't do much apart from keep my head warm :P . But I want to try some thick Iron helmets or Iron sheet shaped to fit the head as i think Iron (or maybe steel) has some anti-neg potential. I'll try anything once or twice, no matter how crazy it seems.

[DAN]

My uncles stepmom keeps all her windows covered with tinfoil to
keep the aliens out. From what i know about negs this just strikes me as a
game! So i think the hats are the same.


Dan

[McArthur]

My uncles stepmom keeps all her windows covered with tinfoil to
keep the aliens out. From what i know about negs this just strikes me as a
game! So i think the hats are the same.

Yes you could be right about the game stuff but it also seems to me that they are making people who do such things to seem crazy too in order to put people off the scent. And thanks for the info about you using a magnet. The more of this sort of evidence we can gather from neg victims the better IMO. Can you get hold of a cheap handheld fan (normally get them in £1/$1 shops) and give that a try too? I'm currently looking very silly sitting at my pc with my hat on (to protect my hair from getting snagged) and the fan on top of my head running constantly. I've had it going for about an hour now and I tell you my resident neg(s) have gone awefully quiet.... its just a shame I can't use this at night as its too damn noisy with the buzzing and I live in an apartment with thin walls. It's certainly doing something though.

[DAN]

McArthur

Yes i have used a fan to break an attack. Only in the summer months though. I keep a fan blowing directly on me all night. Robert
mention's this in his book as a contermeasure for children.

[McArthur]

McArthur

Yes i have used a fan to break an attack. Only in the summer months though. I keep a fan blowing directly on me all night. Robert
mention's this in his book as a contermeasure for children.
I lost my copy of RB's book, I'll have to get another copy. Does he mention why to use a fan or why it works? Very very interesting, thanks. I may add a question in Ask Robert to see what he thinks.

[DAN]

Mc Arthur

I don't remmber, it might be something to do with stimulating energy body! A silly thought could your neg be tricking you into thinking
the fan is to loud for the neighbor?

Dan

[McArthur]

Mc Arthur

I don't remmber, it might be something to do with stimulating energy body! A silly thought could your neg be tricking you into thinking
the fan is to loud for the neighbor?

It's not a silly thought, that is how negs operate. But it is pretty noisy unlike larger type fans that are fairly quiet. And I'm in a house converted to two flats and can hear a lot of what the couple downstairs do so I imagine they can hear my noise also - and my bedroom is directly above theirs. Not a very good situation for me to be in to be honest but I'm moving in the next couple months. I am forced to wear earplugs at weekends due to them coming home after a drink and arguing a lot (probably neg influenced also...). And they just had a baby too and I can't stop obsessing (with help from the resident negs, of course) about the possibility of the negs around me interfering with it or them (especially when its crying...), but what can i do? :roll: :(

[DAN]

McArthur

You don't sleep with headphones? But they can be difficult if you
don't have somebody to wake you. Sounds like your neg uses enviroment
noises against you, i've been working with this alot. By chance would your's use traffic noises against you. If so i think our's have alot in common.


Dan

[McArthur]

McArthur

You don't sleep with headphones? But they can be difficult if you
don't have somebody to wake you.

Sometimes I do but don't have a decent pair at the moment and those small ones that go in the ears hurt my ears after a while. This is something else I have wondered about too with larger over the ear headphones working against negs is it just the music or is it the magnets in them? Same with speakers too - and I imagine the louder the music the stronger Em pulses being given off. And I know loud music helps against negs.


Sounds like your neg uses enviroment
noises against you, i've been working with this alot. By chance would your's use traffic noises against you. If so i think our's have alot in common.

I know what you mean and yes that wil happen occasionally but I just try to ignore it and keep my attention focused elsewhere - which I admit can be difficult at times. I have links to a few other people talking about what you mention - I'll try and find the links to quote them. Oh here they are, this is a mystic/magician doing some Enochian Scrying - 14th Aethyr is the relevent part where an Angel instructs him at one point. Here's a snip:

http://www.geocities.com/alex_sumner/419.htm

"Prior to attempting to skry this Aethyr, I am aware of a number of distracting noises. From the street, from nearby buildings, etc. It occurs to me to wonder whether these distractions are side-effects of me trying to enter this Aethyr? I Astrally make a Pentagram at the nearest and most troublesome source of noise: a phone call. They hang up!"

[...] The angel says to him:

"And you biggest test in this regard is entering the successive Aethyrs. The distractions you experienced earlier - they were Qlippothic forces exteriorising themselves, manifesting in such a way as to try and put you off entering this Aethyr. But the human agents thereof were innocent - they were being affected unwittingly. Then you banished them instead of ignoring them, and they went away.

"You will find that this will happen with increasing regularity as you go higher and higher throughthe Aethyrs. Loose your connections to the material world, that it may not distract you. Banish thoroughly, twice or three times if necessary: do not wait, and do not ignore, hoping the distractions will go away of their own accord. And do not give them any situation they can use against you."

-----

The other one is from Falun Gong:

"Demons won’t care if your practice is only for healing and improving
health. But they will bother you once you begin cultivating to high
levels. They can disturb you using many different methods, the goal of
which is to prevent you from cultivating to high levels and to make you
fail in your practice. Demons manifest themselves in a variety of ways.
Some manifest themselves as daily life happenings, while others take the
form of phenomena from other dimensions. They command things to
interfere with you every time you sit down to meditate, making it
impossible for you to enter tranquility and, therefore, to cultivate to
high levels. Sometimes the moment you sit down to meditate you will
begin to doze off or will have all kinds of thoughts going through your
mind, and you become unable to enter into a cultivation state. At other
times, the moment you start to perform the exercises, your once-quiet
surroundings will suddenly be filled with the noise of footsteps, doors
slamming, cars honking, telephones ringing, and a variety of other forms
of interference, making it impossible for you to become tranquil."

http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/flg_3.htm#7


And I just realized why the fan seems loud - I have it sitting on my head lol If I put it down and walk to the bathroom it doesn't seem as loud. Still a bit too loud to take bed though. The neg is also creating noises on the fan now that sound almost like a voice talking (the whining noise changing pitch, I'll have to try and record it at some point and put up an mp3).... which leads me to my next post.

[McArthur]

I sold my Trifield EM meter a while back when I was short of money, I'm not sure why I didn't use it to show lots of other people the EM stuff I was picking up. I did show a few friends but they aren't really interested in this area and didnt really understand what I was telling them. But I now want one again and this time will borrow a friends video camera to record the stuff and put it up on a website somewhere.

Anyway, I was looking at this site about EM pulsers and came across this interesting little bit below:

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/magpulse.htm

HOW TO DO SOME SIMPLE TESTING OF PULSED MAGNETIC SIGNALS

Would you like an easy way to 'listen' to the output of the MagPulse Wands, to get an idea of the shape and extent of the pulsed magnetic field emanating from the MagPulse? Here's one simple and inexpensive (Under $20) way you can do it, with a couple of commonly available parts from your local Radio Shack store.

PART # 277-1008C Audio Amplifier / Speaker ; 3"x3"x1" compact case, uses a 9 volt battery

PART # 44-533B Telephone Pickup ; plugs into the input of the Amplifier above; picks up magnetic signals.

A 9 volt battery for the Amplifier

This simple setup will allow you to listen to the various pulse rates / frequencies as tones when the MagPulse wand is on / pulsing. You'll be able to observe that you can pick up and hear the signal through the body, at about the same intensity as through the same distance of open air, demonstrating that the body does not substantially attenuate the pulsed magnetic signal from the MagPulse wand.

This 'transparency' of the body to pulsed magnetic signals is spoken of in reference material provided with the MagPulse wands. The Article that's linked below also touches on this subject. The basic significance form these demonstrations is that there is not a loss of 'penetration'; MRI imaging techniques rely on the pulsed magnetic signals which they produce to pass through the body, too. All of our cells 'hear' these pulsed magnetic signals.

The volume / intensity of the signal can easily be heard to increase as you get closer to the MagPulse wand, and to get fainter as you get a greater distance from it. You can optionally plug a set of headphones into the output jack on the Audio Amplifier, to minimize outside noise.

While the audio amplifier is only labeled for a frequency response of from 100 Hz to 10,000 Hz, you can hear lower pulse rates, such as 15 Hz, very well, too.


This would make it a simple EM field (ghost) detector that also converts what it picks up to sound. So I'm getting the parts this week to use as a basic EM meter but am also wondering - if negs, or spirits, can influence subtle EM fields as I think they can will they also be able to influence this meter to make sounds that are at the least some kind of pattern rather than random Em field noise. After all, they did it with the Trifield meter I had before, making it beep twice or once etc. And if they can influence the EM fields as much as I suspect they can I may have recordings of a spirit voice by this time next week. Because after all, all the phone pickup and earpieces do is convert Electromagnetic signals to sound.

I thought about this before posting it because if the device does work in some extra way (spirit voices) I'm not even sure its a good idea to encourage people that may attempt to make contact with "spirits" through stuff like this. I'm only doing it because the damn things are there already and won't go away.

[McArthur]

Also a few year ago on the Astral Pulse there was "spirit voice" stuff being taped using a mic close to white noise, or something.

http://www.crystalinks.com/evp.html

Anyway, with my research about spirits (neg or not) and their connection with EM fields I realized how that Electric Voice phenomena probably works.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/cassette.htm

Recordings using ferrous oxide magnetic tape are basically picking up sound (or "background" noise, i.e. Em fields) through a mic, turning it to EM fields/pulses, which then effect the ferrous metal tapes.

Oh lord, you're going to think I'm mad...

Tin foil hats are not what I have heard works...

....what I have heard works (and this is in all seriousness, I am not joking) is stuffing steel wool in a cap and wearing that to bed. I have not tried it and cannot say if it works.


If I tried that while I am still living with my parents, they would proabaly think I have cracked up again. That is the absolute last thing I need.

[DAN]

McArthur

Koss has excellant headphones called earbuds that insert into the ear
and are comfortable also they have ones called sparkplugs that are not
quite as comfortable. I agree loud is better, it kinda takes the fight out of
them.
Dan

[McArthur]

....what I have heard works (and this is in all seriousness, I am not joking) is stuffing steel wool in a cap and wearing that to bed. I have not tried it and cannot say if it works.

As I live alone I'll buy some this weekend and give it a try, thanks. :)

[McArthur]

McArthur

Koss has excellant headphones called earbuds that insert into the ear
and are comfortable also they have ones called sparkplugs that are not
quite as comfortable. I agree loud is better, it kinda takes the fight out of
them.

I'll check them out thanks, I really need something comfortable but not too expensive.

was brushing my teeth and thought of these other devices.

Attack Wave Pestrepeller
Suppose to cover up to 5,000 sq. ft.
The regular retail was 60-, but I found them for 16- here.
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getp ... strepeller (http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=2241003&search=attack+wave+pestrepeller)
discription here:
http://www.lowguys.com/Merchant2/mercha ... ode=EPC-12 (http://www.lowguys.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=pestcontrol&Product_Code=EPC-12)

Some more here.
http://www.pestrepellerultimate.net/pro ... arison.htm (http://www.pestrepellerultimate.net/product_comparison.htm)
lists which ones operate on sonic, elctro-vibrowave(?), electromag, etc.

here's another that's a portable collar version.
http://gearfordogs.com/Merchant2/mercha ... _Code=EC51 (http://gearfordogs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=EC51)
could start a whole new fad with these!!! :D

now if they only made a sonic hairbrush.

[McArthur]

Interesting ! I like this one:

http://www.pestrepellerultimate.net/pro ... ate_at.htm (http://www.pestrepellerultimate.net/prod_pest_repeller_ultimate_at.htm)

" 2. Second Generation Electro-Vibrawave®
This all new Electro-Vibrawave® uses digitally processed Electromagnetic waves to reach even deeper into walls cracks and crevices throughout your home or office to repel even the impossible to reach pests. The methods which the Pest Repeller Ultimate AT use allow the Electromagnetic waves to reach deeper than other repellers on the market. This is the latest in Electromagnetic Pest Control."

Wouldn't it be great if something like this actually did work on negs? I gotta buy one when I have more cash for sure.

Me too...anyone want to buy a painting?!? :?

Reading about Hulda's Syncrometer, which must be the exact same thing as the EM pulser you're building. It's got an amplifier/speaker. 3 AA batteries, and says you can use a "200 in 1 Electronic Project Lab" from Science Fair.

The interesting thing is it's also used for resonance testing, which I'm also into. Two plates are made and connected with jumper cables, and different test substances are placed on the trays. Let me see if I can explain 'this'?!? :roll: On one plate...the "bad" things go (all test matter goes into small amber glass bottles: a mix of grain alcohol and spring water to dilute)(and build up a collection of these samples) one set with chemicals and icky stuff...
(chlorine, mold, poison ivy, asbestos, mercury, asptertame, etc)...the other set is tissue samples, which can either be bought or made (Hulda suggests taking them from a large fresh fish): parts of intestines, heart, stomach, optic nerve, brain tissue, etc. (i guess it can get pretty in-depth).

How it works is...like a kids game kind of. You hold onto two test bars, and if something on one of the trays matches with something in you...it makes a sound. If you take a bottle with mercury in it on one tray (leaving the other tray empty)...you're testing your "whole" body. If you place a 'stomach' sample on the other tray...you are specifically testing your stomach. Does that make sense. It make complete sense to me. :roll:

It's actually so simple I wonder why they don't have little booths like this set up all over the place to replace doctors?!? Well...I do know why, but it sucks.

Anyway I guess it's off to Radio Shack!
(and a ♥♥♥♥load of small amber bottles?!?) :wink:

[Nikpalj]

There are so many references to magnetic/EM force in occultism literature that I've read... here's a tidbit.

"In a Tantric Magical Working the Adept seeks to activate the kundalini chakra of the female "Scarlet Woman." Once the kundalini is activated and forcefully propels itself through the other chakras finally exiting the crown chakra, the resultant "Ojas" or electromagnetic energy is magically imbued into metal discs laid atop the middle chakras in order to store the electromagnetic energy."

Itdoesn't really matter if it'strue or not, much more interesting is actually mentioning EM energy in relation to chakras. There's definitely something about this...

[mick]

A constructive topic. :)
This may be of use http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magmath.htm

Here are simple magnet experiments which the author provides for an introducion. http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magindex.htm

Many links to educational sites.

[McArthur]

A constructive topic. :)
This may be of use http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magmath.htm

Here are simple magnet experiments which the author provides for an introducion. http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magindex.htm

Many links to educational sites.
Nice link again mick! I particularly like this statement by Faraday from there:


Whenever a magnetic force increases or decreases, it produces electricity;
the faster it increases or decreases, the more electricity it produces.

When I had the Trifield meter I tested for Electric fields and didn't pick up anything. I have wondered about this because I have been sure these negs also somehow use electrical pulses. For instance the way they make muscles twitch (various people here are getting this) would seem to be a mini-electric pulse to a nerve (they actually feel like mini electric shocks as Nikpalj also describes in his posts). Now I've read the above by Faraday perhaps the way they produce their electric pulses is by raising or lowering their EM fields? :idea: :?: I already know they can control EM fields (haven't a clue how, maybe some form of energy-telekinesis or consciousness is EM in nature) so this seems plausible.

I'm using my strong Neodymium magnets at the moment as a neg countermeasure. I have been getting a lot of activity in my left foot (needle pricks and other stuff) so have been adding circled crosses and garlic. The other night I thought I may as well give the magnets another try and it does seem to be adding to the countermeasures. IOW the activity in my left foot has reduced substantially.

I'm using 6 of about this size:
http://tinyurl.com/oryeq
http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/cb/aa/2a_1_b.JPG
Plus about 17 smaller ones all stuck together and placed down my left sock. Have been doing this for three days and it is definitely doing something as neg activity is lower and I am "herxing", as EM pulser users call it. Apparently, "herxing" is when you get a kind of cold or flu-like symptoms for a day or two through using an EM pulser. I don't think most of these users know why this happens but I am now thinking this sounds (and feels) very similar to the kind of reaction people get from disturbing neg attachment points. :idea:

http://tinyurl.com/mvvdr

[question]

anyone want to check these things out?

http://www.ghchealth.com/emf-protection2.php
http://www.ghchealth.com/parasite-zapper.php

somewhat related to topic

[mick]

Whenever a magnetic force increases or decreases, it produces electricity;
the faster it increases or decreases, the more electricity it produces.

I would tend to the idea that varying the magnetic force would vary the frequency but I am sure that Faraday new best. :)


When I had the Trifield meter I tested for Electric fields and didn't pick up anything. I have wondered about this because I have been sure these negs also somehow use electrical pulses...

I'm using my strong Neodymium magnets at the moment as a neg countermeasure. I have been getting a lot of activity in my left foot (needle pricks and other stuff) so have been adding circled crosses and garlic.

The use of electric field detectors has long been a feature of ghost hunting and other paranormal activity investigations. Of the cases that I have come across the results tend to be inconclusive but there may be some areas of research that may be related to some of this stuff with the info available to a search.

I don't use passive counter measures myself but am interested in the reports of their effects and in particular with which types of interaction.
I suspect that they work better with the simpler flora and fauna and where the interaction relies on the placing of structures.

[Robert Bruce]

G'day!

You may find the below interesting. I recommend the book 'Energy Medicine, the scientific basis' by James Oshman. He has a reiki type website somewhere of which I have misplaced the url.

RB.


Science Measures the Human Energy Field
Energy is a theme that permeates many areas of complementary health care, including Reiki. For historic and emotional reasons, two key words have not been mentionable in polite academic research society: "energy" and "touch." Hence it is not surprising that Reiki therapy has been neglected by mainstream biomedical science.

This picture is changing rapidly because of exciting research from around the world. The tale of how concepts of "healing energy" have swung from suspicion and ridicule to respectability is one of the most fascinating and clinically significant stories that can be told.

As in many other areas of investigation, what we were absolutely certain about 20 years ago has changed dramatically. For example, in a few decades scientists have gone from a conviction that there is no such thing as an energy field around the human body, to an absolute certainty that it exists. Moreover, we have begun to understand the roles of energy fields in health and disease. Most people are simply not aware of this research, and persist in the attitude that there is no logical basis for energy healing.
The main reason for the change in outlook is that sensitive instruments have been developed that can detect the minute energy fields around the human body. Of particular importance is the SQUID magnetometer (1) which is capable of detecting tiny biomagnetic fields associated with physiological activities in the body. (Figure 1) This is the same field that sensitive individuals have been describing for thousands of years, but that scientists have ignored because there was no objective way to measure it.

To summarize the discoveries that have been made, the editors of a new international journal commissioned a review of the concept of "healing energy" (2). While we have been researching this topic for some 15 years, the preparation of an in-depth review led to a thorough reexamination of the subject, with some unexpected conclusions.
For the most part, key discoveries are not being made by scientists studying methods such as Reiki, TT and HT. Instead, traditional scientists, following customary logic and scientific methods, have begun to clarify the roles of various kinds of energy in the healing process. Hence the picture that is emerging has the same scientific foundations that underlie modern clinical medicine. For details, see our published articles (3).

The human energy field.
It has long been known that activities of cells and tissues generate electrical fields that can be detected on the skin surface. But the laws of physics demand that any electrical current generates a corresponding magnetic field in the surrounding space. Since these fields were too tiny to detect, biologists assumed they could have no physiological significance.

This picture began to change in 1963. Gerhard Baule and Richard McFee of the Department of Electrical Engineering, Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY detected the biomagnetic field projected from the human heart. They used two coils, each with 2 million turns of wire, connected to a sensitive amplifier.

In 1970, David Cohen of MIT, using a SQUID magnetometer, confirmed the heart measurements. By 1972, Cohen had improved the sensitivity of his instrument, enabling him to measure magnetic fields around the head produced by brain activities.

Subsequently, it has been discovered that all tissues and organs produce specific magnetic pulsations, which have come to be known as biomagnetic fields. The traditional electrical recordings, such as the electrocardiogram and electroencephalogram, are now being complemented by biomagnetic recordings, called magnetocardiograms and magnetoencephalograms. For various reasons, mapping the magnetic fields in the space around the body often provides a more accurate indication of physiology and pathology than traditional electrical measurements.

Pathology alters the biomagnetic field
In the 1920’s and 1930’s, a distinguished researcher at Yale University School of Medicine, Harold Saxon Burr, suggested that diseases could be detected in the energy field of the body before physical symptoms appear. Moreover, Burr was convinced that diseases could be prevented by altering the energy field.

These concepts were ahead of their time, but are now being confirmed in medical research laboratories around the world. Scientists are using SQUID instruments to map the ways diseases alter biomagnetic fields around the body. Others are applying pulsating magnetic fields to stimulate healing. Again, sensitive individuals have been describing these phenomena for a long time, but there was no logical explanation of how it could happen.

Projection of energy from the hands of healers.
In the early 1980’s, Dr. John Zimmerman began a series of important studies on therapeutic touch, using a SQUID magnetometer at the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Denver. Zimmerman discovered that a huge pulsating biomagnetic field emanated from the hands of a TT practitioner. The frequency of the pulsations is not steady, but "sweeps" up and down, from 0.3 to 30 Hz (cycles per second), with most of the activity in the range of 7-8 Hz (Figure 2). The biomagnetic pulsations from the hands are in the same frequency range as brain waves and scientific studies of the frequencies necessary for healing indicate that they naturally sweep back and forth through the full range of therapeutic frequencies, thus being able to stimulate healing in any part of the body.

Confirmation of Zimmerman’s findings came in 1992, when Seto and colleagues, in Japan, studied practitioners of various martial arts and other healing methods. The "Qi emission" from the hands is so strong that they can be detected with a simple magnetometer consisting of two coils, of 80,000 turns of wire. Since then, a number of studies of QiGong practitioners have extended these investigations to the sound, light, and thermal fields emitted by healers. What is particularly interesting is that the pulsation frequency varies from moment to moment. Moreover, medical researchers developing pulsating magnetic field therapies are finding that these same frequencies are effective for ‘ jump starting’ healing in a variety of soft and hard tissues, even in patients unhealed for as long as 40 years. Specific frequencies stimulate the growth of nerves, bones, skin, capillaries, and ligaments. Of course Reiki practitioners and their patients have daily experiences of the healing process being "jump started," and academic medicine is now beginning to accept this therapy as logical and beneficial because of these new scientific findings. In Figure 2 we have bracketed portions of the signal that correspond to the frequencies used in medical devices that stimulate the healing of particular tissues. Individual differences in energy projection and detection.

To study the projection of energy from the hands of therapists, scientists must first recognize that there are huge individual differences between people. Repeated practice of various techniques can enhance the effect.
There are logical neurophysiological and biophysical explanations for the roles of practice and intention. [Editors note: It would be interesting to use these detection techniques to measure the effect of a Reiki attunement on the strength and frequency of biomagnetic energies coming from the hands and also to measure how theraputic frequencies may change when treating various conditions in the body.]

It is not widely understood that "brain waves" are not confined to the brain, but actually spread throughout the body via the perineural system, the connective tissue sheathes surrounding all of the nerves. Dr. Robert O. Becker has described how this system, more than any other, regulates injury repair processes throughout the body. Hence the entire nervous system acts as an "antenna" for projecting the biomagnetic pulsations that begin in the brain, specifically in the thalamus.

Moreover, waves that begin as relatively weak pulsations in the brain appear to gather strength as they flow along the peripheral nerves and into the hands. The mechanism of this amplification probably involves the perineural system and the other connective tissue systems, such as the fascia that are intimately associated with it.

Conclusion
In this brief summary, I have shown how some of the experiences of energy therapists have a basis in biology and physics. After centuries of neglect, energetic therapies can take their appropriate place in clinical medicine. The great discoveries of biologists and of sensitive bodyworkers are being integrated to give us a deeper understanding of life, disease, and healing. Science cannot take away the ultimate mystery of life, nor can it detract from the spiritual componet of healing. We believe that research on the energy therapies can lead to much a more complete understanding of life, desease, and healing.

References:
(1) SQUID is an acronym for Superconducting Quantum Interference Device.
(2) Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapies, Harcourt Brace & Co., Ltd., Edinburgh.
(3) A list of our articles may be obtained from Nature’s Own Research Association, P.O. Box 5101, Dover, NH 03821, USA, Phone, 603-742-3789, Fax 603-742- 2592,

Jim and Nora Oschman are directors of Nature’s Own Research Association in Dover, New Hampshire. Jim is one of the few academic scientists who has focused on the scientific basis for various complementary or alternative medicines. Jim and Nora have written dozens of articles describing the physiological and biophysical mechanisms involved in a wide variety of therapeutic approaches.

SQUID is an acronym for Superconducting Quantum Interference Device
isn't that interesting. :shock:

[mick]

SQUID is an acronym for Superconducting Quantum Interference Device
isn't that interesting. :shock:
So easily shocked. :)
And unfortunately out of reach of simple researchers. :( The simple Magnetometer mentioned is not quite so simple but doable but would not I believe be suitable for detecting varying EM, in fact the opposite as fluctuating fields are cancelled out by the two coils (Edit: using one for each hand would have possibilities perhaps if kept in sync :) ). A build your own project is available, although looking to be work in progress, at http://www.portup.com/~dfount/proton.htm
General outline at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetometer

Measuring anything about the body in a typical domestic setting requires filtering due to mains power and other electrical noise. Just hold oscilloscope leads and the dominant frequency is usually the mains frequency, I had some involvement with ECG equipment and a chunk of the design is simply to filter out the crap so the heart activity can be isolated. Then there is the body electrical noise, Just move an arm and the electrical noise associated with the muscle activity can put the trace all over the place.

Talking of mains EM, have just received some links to ongoing studies looking at mood change effects of various frequencies including mains (50-60 Hertz) frequencies. Will have a read for anything of interest.

[McArthur]

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/magpulse.htm
[b]
HOW TO DO SOME SIMPLE TESTING OF PULSED MAGNETIC SIGNALS

Would you like an easy way to 'listen' to the output of the MagPulse Wands, to get an idea of the shape and extent of the pulsed magnetic field emanating from the MagPulse? Here's one simple and inexpensive (Under $20) way you can do it, with a couple of commonly available parts from your local Radio Shack store.

PART # 277-1008C Audio Amplifier / Speaker ; 3"x3"x1" compact case, uses a 9 volt battery

PART # 44-533B Telephone Pickup ; plugs into the input of the Amplifier above; picks up magnetic signals.


Well I bought these parts and have not had results similar to those I had with the Trifield meter. It will buzz if I put the pickup close to my monitor but if I leave it in open space to see if the neg will do what it did when I had the Trifield, nothing happens. Not sure if this may be due to this setup not being sensitive enough, so I will try again a few times but think I'll need to reinvest in a EM field meter. I guess any experiment is worth a try but I'm a little disappointed in this one. The difference with this and the Trifield is it seems with this setup something has to go real close (within inches) for it to pick it up whereas the Trifield can pick up any disturbance in a large room.

[daem0n]

it may be of interest to you that i managed to kill one with electric shaving machine
it is interesting how the noise changes to a bit lower when going through a neg
of course i cannot verify it properly, but you may give it a shot
oh and moving it over afflicted area definitely breaks any attack, at least all physical sensations cease

[McArthur]

it may be of interest to you that i managed to kill one with electric shaving machine
it is interesting how the noise changes to a bit lower when going through a neg
of course i cannot verify it properly, but you may give it a shot
oh and moving it over afflicted area definitely breaks any attack, at least all physical sensations cease
That is interesting thanks! There seem to be a few with these experiences, which is encouraging that we may be on to something. What we need to find out is what exactly is it with these electrical devices that may be affecting negs?

[daem0n]

remember the neuron talks to chip, chip talks back topic ?
it said that it would be still impossible to connect brain to internet because the voltage was too high and it would kill the neuron and other brain cells
now, we know that negs interfere with our magnetic field

that would suggest, alongside mentioning by Nik that when he sneezed one of his negs was terrified of the voltage being generated, that they operate on even lower electrical/magnetic fields than us

i can feel electricity affecting my aura, folks living under high voltage lines have much higher cancer probability (i can view cancer as dysfunction of energy body, or biomegnetic field as someone called it, and totally relate to that), so we can say that electricty disrupts magnetic field to some extent
also i remember how ALL stuff working with powerful radars in the army gets cancer and alike

what i am getting at is that, since i suck at physics, either:
1)electrical devices create non-resonant magnetic field negatively affecting us and our negs, the latter being much more vulnerable
2)electrical devices disrupt our inherent body electricity and negs electricity and thus indirectly disrupt our biomagnetic fields

maybe there is a treshold depending on electricity voltage that our cells can tolerate and we are safe from usual household stuff, but as i sit before computer i don't really believe it, i can feel the thing killing me slowly :cry: ;)

also i cannot make out Muse mentioning that she shots the best pic of orbs near transformer stations, but only rough guesses here

i know i repeated the stuff, but i am making this clear in my mind now
thank you

[McArthur]

as i sit before computer i don't really believe it, i can feel the thing killing me slowly :cry: ;)

Yes I know what you mean here. I always feel a lot better when I haven't been on the net for a while. Some of my worst attacks start after posting here and when I'm on the net. If I mainly stay in bed for 2 days and not use my PC at all I hardly get any PA's (psychic attacks) at all.

[daem0n]

maybe our current neg problems are coming form this forum ? or from the net overall, this wouldn't surprise me

Never really got into the Hulda Clark thing for electronics against parasites, but since looking into the Scientology information and coming across their use of the "E-meter" to get rid of Body Thetans (BTs)...
thought i should invest the time.

This is Hulda's Syncrometer
http://www.experimentaldevices.com/syncrometer_01.jpg
This device is pretty straight forward. Using a collection of test samples (tissue samples for left plate [brain, heart, liver, etc], and pathnogene samples for right plate [liver fluke, cancer, copper, chlorine, asbestos, etc) one is able (through resonance testing) to determin what illsness they may have, and where. of course this wouldn't work with 'astral parasites', because you need to have a sample of one to put on the plate for testing.
so we'll put that off to the side for now.

This is an E-meter
http://www.reinhardberlin.de/PICS/emeter.jpg
This is what the Church of Scientology uses for "auditing"...their name for getting rid of neg's, which they call Body Thetans. They believe that BTs have inhabited the earth for 75 million years, and that all people are infested (unless they gone through the 8 levels of auditing and become 'clear'. They also believe that everyone can have thousands of these BTs, and that they form into clusters.
I don't know exactly how this thing works?!? Something like a lie-dectector that measures body/brain resistance. Same as the above Resonance Tester I'd assume...I think they use 'key words' instead of tissue samples...so there could be some possibilties there?

This is all very interesting in regards to Hulda's research as well. Scientologists believe that BTs are behind all disturbances, imblances, and social discord (crime, hate, pervertedness, anger, insanity, depression, etc). Hulda believes that all physical diseases stem from parasitic overload, and pollution...everything from cancer to ance, anxiety, hyperacitivity, allegeries, diabetes, aids, and depression (as well).

Everything "bad" stemming either from real physical parasites, to real astral parasite. Neither of these realms or the people involved in doing the work, the research, etc is ever taken seriously by the medical profession, scientists (yet), or the psychiatric community.

This is Hulda's Zapper (also hooked up to the Syncrometer on right)
http://www.drhuldaclark.org/images/platezapper-w350.jpg
This gives a good example of the test bottles on the Syncrometer plates.
also the whole set up. The machines can be found online pretty cheap. A lot of people are making a business out of putting them together and selling them online. There are also schematics that can be found online.
I can't find the book right now, but it lists the parts, along with the products #'s for Radio Shack. I'll post that later.


The original technique showed that very small animals, like our parasites, can be killed with a very small voltage. But only IF the voltage is 100% positive offset, and only IF the voltage is varied up and down repeatedly.

If the varying voltage becomes NEGATIVE, even momentarily, it supports and maintains their lives! This must be avoided. You cannot take this for granted when you purchase a zapper. The maker must assure you that it has been checked on an oscilloscope and not even 1% negative voltage found... If the voltage is applied in pulses, to produce a "square" wave, it will affect many parasites at once so that the rate of raising and lowering it, called frequency, is not critical. Even though these tiny animals undoubtedly have a "mortal frequency", this rate does not need to be known or used when a square wave of electricity, totally positive, is used (see page 529).

A positive electrical force that pulses up and down not only appears to kill tiny invaders, it also seems to energize your white blood cells to go on an all - out attack on your enemies: your parasites, your toxins, everything, in spite of their four blockers. In spite of benzene, PCBs, metals, and asbestos! For a time, your WBCs turn into Super-WBCs. That I why I recommend eight hours of zapping daily until you are well.

Hulda's zapper design operates at about 30,000 Hertz, or 30 KHz. Hulda found that a positive DC offset of the square wave signal to be critically important. She also suggested a maximum supply voltage of 9 volts. Hulda's protocol for zapping involves three 7 minute zapping sessions interspersed with a 20 minute break between each zapping session.

This is Don Croft's version of the zapper...The Terminator
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/IM000118.JPG
Don lowered his zapper frequency to a base frequency of 15 Hz, which is very close to the first harmonic of the Schumann frequency. Don's design also employs a positive DC offset voltage of approximately 5 volts. Don took his zapper design even further by incorporating an orgone generator and other new ideas.

This included adding metal shavings combined with polyester resin to the inside of his zapper box. This created an orgone generator, a new kid on the block. The world has known about orgone accumulators since the 1930's thanks to the books of Wilhelm Reich, but an orgone generator is a new and decided leap forward. According to Don, an orgone generator takes life negative deadly orgone or DOR and converts it into life positive orgone energy

Don souped up his zapper design even more by adding Amethyst and Garnet crystal beads into the circuit, along with a strong neodymium magnet and a mobius coil. Now, he called it The Terminator (eat your heart out Darth Vader). He began getting spectacular feedback from people using the Terminator zapper. AIDS and cancer seemed almost easy. The Terminator apparently really shines when it comes to dealing with bioengineered Mycoplasma and Prions in the body.
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/donszapp ... ar02.shtml (http://educate-yourself.org/dc/donszapperandterminator24mar02.shtml)

Some more pictures
An Orgone Generator
http://www.orgonise-africa.net/images/products/050209HHG2-175.jpg
Tower Buster
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/IM603.JPG
Chemtrail Buster
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/IM2027%20two%20gal%20CB%20on%20patio%20wide626.jpg
Mega Power Wand
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/IM2439natlPWruler150.jpg

If you don't know what these things are I suggest you read up here.
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/orgonegenindex.shtml althoughs there are a ton of other sites...this is direct from the horses mouth.

[mick]

http://freezoneamerica.org/lkin/v2-3d-em.html
http://www.st83.org/info/techdic/efg_tec.htm Interpret one

http://www.anima.co.uk/mmmpromo.htm Buy one.

Anon :)

thanks honey :)

[McArthur]

This is the result of a few hours brainstorming and very rough (basically my notes as I was surfing through wikipedia). I've left any comments that were meant just for me to remember something (and random thoughts as they came to me), I know it's a little scattered (pun, see below). I hope to put together a decent "Thesis Paper on Negs and Em fields" using all this info, eventually. For now I'll just do an information dump as it is as I want to have it somewhere other than my pc in case of crashes and some comments or thoughts would be great (am I seeing connections that aren't there etc? i.e. sanity check).

I was on a roll this afternoon as almost every link I went to there was something that just seemed to FIT in place like watching a jigsaw put itself together. Please try to ignore all my ???????'s and !!!!!!!!'s as I was buzzing (like a BEE!) and can't be bothered editing them out. :roll: :)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_poisoning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromag ... on_hazards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_hazards)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrodynamics


Questions:
How do the following affect an EM field (say 5 microteslas) when introduced into the center of the field:

1. A plastic hosepipe of fast running water.
2. A plastic hosepipe of fast running saline solution.
3. A pipe of flowing steam.
4. A container of coarse sea salt or small crystals (any in particular?).
5. A thick electric cable that has current running through it.

What substances, if any, are known to interfere with EM fields?



I was going to post the above questions on physics forums but I've just spent a few hours researching on wikipedia and have answered most of the questions below.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractive_index

"The effect that n varies with frequency (except in vacuum, where all frequencies travel at the same speed, c) is known as dispersion, and it is what causes a prism to divide white light into its constituent spectral colors, explains rainbows, and is the cause of chromatic aberration in lenses. In regions of the spectrum where the material does not absorb, the real part of the refractive index tends to increase with frequency. Near absorption peaks, the curve of the refractive index is a complex form given by the Kramers-Kronig relations, and can decrease with frequency."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_coefficient

"The extinction coefficient for a particular substance is a measure of how well it absorbs electromagnetic radiation (EM waves). If the EM wave can pass through very easily, the material has a low extinction coefficient. Conversely, if the radiation hardly penetrates the material, but rather quickly becomes "extinct" within it, the extinction coefficient is high."

"A material can behave differently for different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation. Glass is transparent to visible light, but many types of glass are opaque to ultra-violet wavelengths. In general, the extinction coefficient for any material is a function of the incident wavelength. The extinction coefficient is used widely in ultraviolet-visible spectroscopy."

WHAT MATERIALS HAVE A HIGH 'extinction coefficient' then?
(random comment: I heard somewhere that priests wear black as it is meant to be protective color against 'evil' (absorbs light/EM)?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_coefficient

"The absorption coefficient is a property of a material. It defines the extent to which a material absorbs energy, for example that of sound waves or electromagnetic radiation. Wallace Sabine was a pioneer of this concept in acoustics and defined the unit of the Sabine. A Sabine is defined as a fraction of acoustic power absorbed by a 1m square of open window. In SI units, absorption coefficient is measured in inverse metres, and is represented by the Greek letter mu."


Sound Absorption Coefficients for Some Common Materials - This website helps one understand the concept as well as provides formulai and some coefficients.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/accou ... -d_68.html (http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/accoustic-sound-absorption-d_68.html)


BINGO! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattering

"Scattering is a general physical process whereby some forms of radiation, such as light or moving particles, for example, are forced to deviate from a straight trajectory by one or more localized non-uniformities in the medium through which it passes. It can also be seen with some sound phenomena. In conventional use, this also includes deviation of reflected radiation from the angle predicted by the law of reflection. Reflections that undergo scattering are often called diffuse reflections and unscattered reflections are called specular (mirror-like) reflections."

"The types of non-uniformities that can cause scattering, sometimes known as scatterers or scattering centers, are too numerous to list, ****but a small sample includes particles, bubbles, droplets, density fluctuations in fluids, defects in crystalline solids, surface roughness, cells in organisms, and textile fibers in clothing.****** The effects of such features on the path of almost any type of propagating wave or moving particle can be described in the framework of scattering theory."

"In physical descriptions of scattering, physicists commonly distinguish between two broad types, elastic and inelastic. Elastic scattering involves no (or very small) loss or gain of energy by the radiation. Inelastic scattering does involve some change in the energy of the radiation. These terms derive from the kinetic theory of the collision of solid bodies, which can often be used to model scattering processes."

"If the radiation is substantially or completely extinguished [I WISH!] by the interaction (losing a significant proportion of its energy [YES PLEASE!]), the process is known as absorption. In some contexts, absorption is considered to be merely an extreme form of inelastic scattering. Generally speaking, in classical physics absorption and scattering tend to be treated as different phenomena, while in quantum physics absorption is treated as a form of scattering via the S-matrix. To be precise, absorption cannot occur without some degree of scattering, and scattering is rarely completely elastic, but on a macroscopic scale it is common for "absorption" and "scattering" to take place without any appreciable contribution from the other process, so treating them separately is often convenient."
************** MORE AT LINK.

So, bubbles and droplets will cause SCATTERING of EM fields!! Is this why a shower helps?????????? NOTE the part about, crystalline solids and also density fluctuations in fluids(add salt??). Is this WHY Mega Salt baths with the coarse crystals are helping (I had a nice long one this afternoon and they definitely work!)? AND even the textile fibers as RB says wear bed socks to protect feet.... is this why they are protective????

DEFECTS IN crystals????? So smoky quartz really is better at psychic protection than clear quartz then?????????? Find out which crystal has most defects LOL.

TURKISH STEAM BATHS?????? I've also been getting minor results from aerosol sprays directly on attachment points, altho not much. Or how about a Disco smoke machine, doesnt hurt humans but does it affect negs?

This is called Rayleigh Scattering (taken from last link) :

"is a process in which electromagnetic radiation (including light) is scattered by a small spherical volume of variant refractive index, such as a particle, bubble, droplet, or even a density fluctuation. This effect was first modeled successfully by Lord Rayleigh, from whom it gets its name. In order for Rayleigh's model to apply, the sphere must be much smaller in diameter than the wavelength (?) of the scattered wave; typically the upper limit is taken to be about 1/10 the wavelength. In this size regime, the exact shape of the scattering center is usually not very significant and can often be treated as a sphere of equivalent volume. The inherent scattering that radiation undergoes passing through a pure gas is due to microscopic density fluctuations as the gas molecules move around, which are normally small enough in scale for Rayleigh's model to apply. This scattering mechanism is the primary cause of the blue color of the Earth's sky on a clear day, as the shorter blue wavelengths of sunlight passing overhead are more strongly scattered than the longer red wavelengths according to Rayleigh's famous 1/? 4 relation. Along with absorption, such scattering is a major cause of the attenuation of radiation by the atmosphere. The degree of scattering varies as a function of the ratio of the particle diameter to the wavelength of the radiation, along with many other factors including polarization, angle, and coherence."

[This MIGHT explain partly why the SMOKE given off by burning SULPHER or CHILLI PEPPERS has an affect because the particles of the smoke are scattering the EM fields of the negs. It goes on to say : ]

"Another special type of EM scattering is coherent backscattering. This is a relatively obscure phenomenon that occurs when coherent radiation (such as a laser beam) propagates through a medium which has a large number of scattering centers, so that the waves are scattered many times while traveling through it. A ***THICK CLOUD is a typical example of this sort of MULTIPLE-SCATTERING MEDIUM.*** The effect produces a very large peak in the scattering intensity in the direction from the which the wave travels�effectively, the light scatters preferentially back the way it came."

[So this connects with this scattering effect affecting negs via :

1. Smoke and fumes, as mentioned above.
2. Fine spray from waterfalls (and showers)?
3. Turkish steam baths I mentioned?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-particle_duality

"In the photoelectric effect, it was observed that shining a light on certain metals would lead to an electric current in a circuit. Presumably, the light was knocking electrons out of the metal, causing them to flow. However, it was also observed that while a dim **BLUE LIGHT** was enough to cause A CURRENT, even the strongest, brightest red light caused no current at all. According to wave theory, the strength or amplitude of a light wave was in proportion to its brightness: a bright light should have been easily strong enough to create a large current. Yet, oddly, this was not so."

"Einstein explained this conundrum by postulating that the electrons were knocked free of the metal by incident photons, with each photon carrying an amount of energy E that was related to the frequency, ? of the light by

E = h \nu\,

where h is Planck's constant (6.626 x 10-34 J seconds). Only photons of a high-enough frequency, (above a certain threshold value) could knock an electron free. For example photons of blue light, but not photons of red light, had sufficient energy to free an electron from the metal. More intense light above the threshold frequency could release more electrons, but no amount of light below the threshold frequency could release an electron.

Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921 for his theory of the photoelectric effect."

BLUE LIGHTS ASAP!!! ? (or what is higher frequency???) Is this why leaving LIGHTS ON that RB suggest is helping?

At the very least it may clear up any acne you have:

http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/arti ... nworks.htm (http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/articles/beautyskinworks.htm)
"The irradiation of P. acnes with blue visible light (415nm) leads to photoexcitation of bacterial porphyrins, singlet oxygen production and eventually bacterial destruction (3)."


http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/articles ... light.html (http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/articles/healing_with_light.html)
"babies that suffer from jaundice are placed under blue light to help them."

http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/sadultima4.htm
Light boxes that help people with SAD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_therapy
Lots there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_diffraction

"Unlike other types of radiation used in diffraction studies of materials, such as X-rays and neutrons, electrons are charged particles and interact with matter through the Coloumb forces. This means that the incident electrons feel the influence of both the positively charged atomic nuclei and the surrounding electrons. In comparison, X-rays interact with the spatial distribution of the valence electrons, while neutrons are scattered by the atomic nuclei through the strong nuclear forces. In addition, ****the magnetic moment of neutrons is non-zero, and they are therefore also scattered by magnetic fields*****. Because of these different forms of interaction, the three types of radiation are suitable for different studies."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law

"In either formulation, Coulomb's law is fully accurate only when the objects are stationary, and remains approximately correct only for slow movement. These conditions are collectively known as the electrostatic approximation. When movement takes place, magnetic fields are produced that alter the force on the two objects. The force resulting from magnetic field between moving charges can be thought of as a manifestation of the force from the electrostatic field but with Einstein's theory of relativity taken into consideration."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics

"In electrostatics, charge need not be 'static' in the sense of unchanging. Instead 'static' implies that the dynamic coupling between electric and magnetic fields can be ignored. In electrostatics we study e-fields, voltage, and charge, but ignore any magnetic fields generated by the motion of these charges or that may be present for other reasons. Because of the electric field's relationship to and interaction with magnetism, electrostatics is a subfield of electromagnetism."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics

Also available are handheld static guns which shoot streams of ions to discharge static on records and lenses. ????? Try one on attachment points? worth a shot (a gun pun haha) ?

http://www.electrostatics.com/ionizinggun.html
http://www.electrostatics.com/overhead.html

WOAHHH, there are reports from some that a HAIRDRYER helps for some reason. I just came across this heat gun that eliminates STATIC electricity:

http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/14591/2224

"Heat Gun provides static control.

October 1, 2002 - Master-Mite ESD-safe Heat Gun acts as UL 499 Certified bench-top heating system that combines heat, air velocity, and volume with static control. Suited for electrostatic sensitive areas, Master-Mite ESD includes brushless motor, carbon-filled plastic conductive housing with surface resistance of less than 500 ohms/sq., and 800°F heating element. Options include interchangeable heating elements for 500 and 650°F temperatures and solder preform attachment."

The reason I am looking at static electric is because the many little pin pricks I get from this entity (a common sign of neg problems according to RB) feel just like a sharp static electric shock and this ties into EM fields etc. I'm also getting frequent static electric shocks on my hands that sometimes make my arms flinch. So are the hairdryers working due to eliminating static and this affects the neg in some way, as that anti-static gun is basically a glorified hairdryer????


(also from the same electrostatics wiki link above)
"Static electricity is an important element in the biological process of pollination by bees, since the charge on a bee's body helps to attract and hold pollen." [Had to include the Bees for RB in case he gets time to read this thread. ;o) ]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_discharge

"The most spectacular form of ESD is the spark, which occurs when a strong electric field creates an ionized conductive channel in air."

[Yeah and don't EM fields create strong electric fields by induction?? This little neg is giving me small static shocks via its ability to alter EM fields? SEE *NOTE]

"A spark is triggered when the electric field strength exceeds approximately 30 kv/cm. This may cause a very rapid increase in the number of free electrons and ions in the air, temporarily causing the air to abruptly become an electrical conductor in a process called dielectric breakdown."

[So is this why Ionizers have been suggested for clearing negative energy? If you stand by a WATERFALL you get a GOOD FEELING because of all the negative ( - the good Ions rather than + positive) IONS that waterfalls are known to give off. And aren't waterfalls good for repelling NEGS????? Is it because of the IONS?]

*NOTE: Yeah I was right about EM fields tying in with static electric :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_potential

"Electric potential may be conceived of as "electric pressure". Where this "pressure" is uniform, nothing happens, just as we do not feel the static atmospheric pressure at sea level. However, where the PRESSURE VARIES [?], it produces an electric field which creates a force that can move charged particles to different locations.

Mathematically, it is the potential f (a scalar field) associated with the conservative electric field E (E = -?f) that occurs when the magnetic field is time invariant (so that ? � E = 0 from Faraday's law of induction)."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_field

"In the dynamic case the electric field is accompanied by a magnetic field (if charges producing electric field move with constant velocity), or by electromagnetic field (when charges move with acceleration). Both electric and magnetic fields have energy associated with them, and e/m field being a field in motion also has momentum. Energy of e/m field is quantized (and quanta are called photons)."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation

"Since light is an oscillation, it is not affected by travelling through static electric or magnetic fields in a linear medium such as a vacuum. In nonlinear media such as some [SALT BATH?] CRYSTALS, HOWEVER, ****interactions can occur between LIGHT and STATIC ELECTRIC and MAGNETIC FIELDS**** - these interactions include the Faraday effect and the Kerr effect."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_diffraction

"The study of magnetic materials is complicated by the fact that electrons are deflected in magnetic fields by the Lorentz force. Although this phenomenon may be exploited to study the magnetic domains of materials by Lorentz force microscopy, it may make crystal structure determination virtually impossible."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force

"In physics, the Lorentz force is the force exerted on a charged particle in an electromagnetic field. The particle will experience a force due to electric field of qE, and due to the magnetic field qv � B. Combined they give the Lorentz force equation (or law):

\mathbf{F} = q (\mathbf{E} + \mathbf{v} \times \mathbf{B}),

where

F is the force (in newtons)
E is the electric field (in volts per meter)
B is the magnetic field (in webers per square meter, or equivalently, teslas)
q is the electric charge of the particle (in coulombs)
v is the instantaneous velocity of the particle (in meters per second)
and � is the cross product.

Thus a positively charged particle will be accelerated in the same linear orientation as the E field, but will curve perpendicularly to the B field according to the right-hand rule."


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Notes: Random EM field pulses to cover various wavelengths (unless can measure the negs wavelength.. but it seems to be able to change it, hence need for random as it might be able to change its field so that the field of the EM pulse has little effect on it if only one wavelength is used. --- "These extra terms are responsible for electromagnetic radiation. When any wire (or other conducting object such as an antenna) conducts alternating current, electromagnetic radiation is propagated at the same frequency as the electric current." ) So basically pulse a constantly changing current through a coil and apply to attachment point (coil wrapped in something non-conductive obviously.).

Clothing with coating/lining of many layers of nano-sized crystals as a possible shield?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractive_index

"The strong electric field of high intensity light (such as output of a laser) may cause a medium's refractive index to vary as the light passes through it, giving rise to nonlinear optics."

[Interesting that Light can give off strong electric fields... is it this electric field affecting negs???? Electric Convulsive Therapy does work sometimes for mental health patients... (and so do EM pulses, see below)]

"Some common mirages are caused by a spatially-varying refractive index of air."

[Air from hairdryers and fans... is the refractive index of the air varying thus affecting EM fields/negs more.... ? ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_in ... refraction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indices_of_refraction)

I read this, and :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization

"In electrodynamics, polarization (also spelled polarisation) is the property of electromagnetic waves, such as light, that describes the direction of their transverse electric field. More generally, the polarization of a transverse wave describes the direction of oscillation in the plane perpendicular to the direction of travel. Longitudinal waves such as sound waves do not exhibit polarization, because for these waves the direction of oscillation is along the direction of travel."

[and was thinking a spiral kind ("right-hand circular polarization") of wave might have more chance of disrupting the up-down or left-right EM field waves and if to confirm my thoughts there is that bit on the end about soundwaves and loud music certainly affects negs- READ the above POLARIZATION link where it also says this:

"Many animals are apparently capable of perceiving the polarization of light, which is generally used for navigational purposes, since the linear polarization of sky light is always perpendicular to the direction of the sun. This ability is very common among the insects, including BEES, which use this information to orient their communicative dances." - another little BEE to follow for RB :wink: ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromag ... on_hazards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_hazards)

"The best understood biological effect of electromagnetic fields is to cause DIALECTRIC HEATING. For example, touching an antenna while a transmitter is in operation can cause severe burns. Birds sitting on very high-power antennas when transmission begins can be instantly cooked by RF energy. In fact, that is the principle behind the operation of a microwave oven."

[RIGHT, when I have this ENTITY giving me full on trouble I can feel it attaching (or energy) at my ears and mainly around my HEAD and back of neck, amongst other places, and MY EARS and this whole area GET HOT (similar to how they get hot when I use my old mobile phone for lengthy periods, which is also due to EM fields it is giving off! - so this could be this dialectic heating caused by the EM fields this NEG is attempting to use on me.]

From the same link above:

"There is also a body of evidence which supports the existence of complex biological effects of weaker non-thermal electromagnetic fields (see Bioelectromagnetics), including weak ELF magnetic fields and modulated RF and microwave fields. The theoretical mechanism of action of non-thermal electromagnetic fields is not fully understood, but there are some established biological effects. [1] [2] Because the extent of Non-thermal effects is not fully established, they may be beneficial or harmful. A common position presented regarding these effects is that, since they are not well understood, a precautionary principle approach would suggest minimizing exposure whenever possible."

Some studies have even suggested that a small percentage of the population may be electromagnetically sensitive and can physically react to very low level fields even in double-blind experiments. It does not seem to be a congenital condition and theories have been put forth that some form of external trigger such as previous chemical exposure may bring about this electrical sensitivity (ES)."

[Check those 1 and 2, interesting.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectromagnetics

[I'll paste everything from this one]

"Bioelectromagnetics

Bioelectromagnetics is the study of how electromagnetic fields interact with and influence biological processes. Common areas of investigation include the mechanism of animal migration and navigation using the geomagnetic field, studying the potential effects of man-made sources of electromagnetic fields, such as those produced by the power distribution system and mobile phones, and developing novel therapies to treat various conditions.

While several treatments based on the use of magnetic fields have been reported in peer-reviewed journals, the only ones that have been approved by the FDA are the use of pulsed magnetic fields to aid non-union bone fractures. Transcranial magnetic stimulation is currently under ACTIVE STUDY in MULTIPLE RESEARCH CENTRES [YEEEHAAAA GREAT! ALSO TEST IT'S AFFECT ON CANCEROUS TUMORS PLEASE!!], and will likely become an approved THERAPY IN FUTURE [DAMN RIGHT IT WILL!].
Contents

* 1 Introduction: general features of observed interactions
o 1.1 Thermal vs nonthermal nature
o 1.2 Behavioral effects
o 1.3 TMS (and related)
* 2 See also
* 3 References
o 3.1 Organizations
o 3.2 Books
o 3.3 Journals
o 3.4 Journal Articles
o 3.5 External links


Introduction: general features of observed interactions

Thermal vs nonthermal nature

Most of the molecules that make up the human body interact only weakly with electromagnetic fields (EMF) that are in the radiofrequency or extremely low frequency bands. One basic interaction is the absorption of energy from the EMF, which can cause tissue to heat up; more intense field exposures will produce greater heating. This heat deposition can lead to biological effects ranging from discomfort to protein denaturation to burns. Many nations and regulatory bodies (for example, the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection) have established safety guidelines to limit the EMF exposure to a non-thermal level, which can either be defined as heating only to the point where the excess heat can be dissipated/radiated away, or as some small temperature increase that is not detectable with current instruments (such as a heating of less than 0.1°C).

However, some research has indicated that biological effects may be present for these non-thermal exposures. Various mechanisms have been proposed to explain non-thermal exposures, and there may be several mechanisms at work underlying the differing phenomena observed.

Behavioral effects

Many subtle, and at times, not-so-subtle effects on behaviour have been reported from exposure to magnetic fields, with a particular focus in research on pulsed magnetic fields. The specific pulseform used appears to be an important factor for the behavioural effect seen. For instance, a pulsed magnetic field originally designed for magnetic resonance spectroscopic imaging was found to alleviate symptoms in bipolar patients (Rohan et al, 2004), while another MRI pulse had no effect. A whole-body exposure to a pulsed magnetic field was found to alter standing balance (Thomas et al, 2001) and pain perception (Shupak et al, 2004) in other studies.
[edit]

TMS (and related)

A strong changing magnetic field can induce electrical currents in conductive tissue, such as the brain. Since the magnetic field will penetrate tissue, it can be generated outside of the head to induce currents within, hence Transcranial magnetic stimulation [AND NEG INTERFERENCE!]. These currents will depolarize parts of the brain, leading to changes in the patterns of neural activation. Essentially, it is a form of electroconvulsive therapy using induced currents from strongly changing magnetic fields rather than inserted electrodes. This type of controlled seizure can be useful in treating disorders such as severe depression, or as a tool for inducing localized brain activation in functional imaging studies."

[check the link for links and sources/notes etc]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism
[PLENTY to read there]

This next one links into all of this, IGNORE the planet hypothesis stuff and read about MAXWELL and the Hyperdimension stuff around halfway down this page and also the next page (link at bottom of first page).

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper1.html


LVX !

McAuthor

Mother of God help us...I think I'm going to have to print out your posting and read through all of it carefully.

[CFTraveler]

I liked it. :wink:

[McArthur]

OK I tried to go sleep and thought I would write this out in the morning, but I was laying in bed thinking about it and the more I thought the more it looked like I really did have a reasonable explanation of what causes Cancer. It just seems too simple for it to be correct and I must have gone wrong somewhere? It's so simple surely someone else would have thought of this by now? But then I realized that no-one has because no-one else is looking for small attachments to cancer victims' bodies by "Invisible Spirits". They have looked at EMF emissions from stuff like mobile phone towers but they're not expecting there to be little lumps of invisible 'energy' (negs) attached directly to the skin or flesh with the EM fields acting directly on the cells (rather than the much less harmful waves we have bouncing around us every day). A scientist would think it impossible for 'blobs' of EM energy apparently being formed from nowhere (or would they, dare I mention 'Dark Matter' and 'Dark Energy' - Dark meaning invisible?). Its not connected to any eletrical devices and human flesh wouldn't give off strong enough EM fields to be able to harm itself so where is that EM field coming from? (And that's a very good question I'll leave for another day).

After researching about how EM fields work all day today I know a bit more about how EM fields can affect us biologically. After making my previous post I went back to wikipedia to look at what was known about how Cancer works so far and this just looks so obvious I am wondering if I'm gonna make myself look stupid here lol. Ok, here goes, my explanation about Cancer:

We start with a quote from the previous post regarding EMF's causing tissue to heat up:

"This heat deposition can lead to biological effects ranging from discomfort to protein denaturation to burns."

Now I didn't know what "protein denaturation" meant so I just did what I had been doing all day and read up about it:

http://class.fst.ohio-state.edu/FST822/ ... /Denat.htm (http://class.fst.ohio-state.edu/FST822/lectures/Denat.htm)

"Protein denaturation is commonly defined as any noncovalent change in the structure of a protein. This change may alter the secondary, tertiary or quaternary structure of the molecules."

And:

"For those proteins that are enzymes, denaturation can be defined as the loss of enough structure to render the enzyme inactive. "

Right, so I don't know what "noncovalent change" means from the above quote so again I look it up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncovalent_bonding

"Intramolecular noncovalent interactions are largely responsible for the secondary and tertiary structure of proteins and therefore the protein's function in the mechanisms of life. Intermolecular noncovalent interactions are responsible for protein complexes (quaternary structure) where two or more proteins function in a coherent mechanism."

Ok so then I looked up proteins:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein

"Proteins are also important in cell signaling, immune responses, cell adhesion, and the CELL CYCLE."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_replication

"DNA replication or DNA synthesis is the process of copying a double-stranded DNA strand in a cell, prior to cell division."

Right, it looks like this is headed somewhere because Cancer is caused by out of control cell division:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_division

"Cancer cells, on the other hand, are "immortal." An enzyme called telomerase, absent in normal cells but present in large quantites in cancerous cells, rebuilds the telomeres, allowing division to continue indefinitely."

OK, so what is this "telomeres" (this is getting harder to follow, I hope I am connecting this right)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomerase

"When cells are approaching the Hayflick limit in cell cultures, the time to senescence can be extended [i]by the inactivation of the tumor suppressor proteins - TP53 and Retinoblastoma protein (pRb)."

OK let's just take a look at those "tumor suppressor PROTEINS (what we learned about earlier that can get affected by EMF's) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor_suppressor_gene

"Some proteins involved in cell adhesion prevent tumor cells from dispersing, block loss of contact inhibition, and inhibit metastasis [2]"

All well and good, but what if these proteins have suffered "protein denaturation", their inner workings changed by some rogue EMF? Well, they wouldn't be working correctly for starters, would they? "the time to senescence can be extended by the inactivation of the tumor suppressor proteins." Ok let's look up that bit about this "metastasis" these proteins are supposed to inhibit (if they were working correctly) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metastasis

"Metastasis (Greek: change of the state) is the spread of cancer from its primary site to other places in the body (e.g., brain, liver).

Cancer cells can break away from a primary tumor [the neg attachment point - McA], penetrate into lymphatic and blood vessels, circulate through the bloodstream, and grow in a distant focus (metastasize) in normal tissues elsewhere in the body.

Tumors are classified as either benign or malignant [depends how many proteins have been affected by the EMF?]. Malignant tumors can spread by invasion and metastasis while benign tumors cannot (and only grow locally). By definition, the term "cancer" applies only to malignant tumors. Still, some tumors with benign histology can behave as malignant tumors, for example in brain tumors, where treatment has to be as aggressive as with malignant disease.

Patients diagnosed with cancer want to know whether their disease is local or has spread to other locations. It is the ability to spread to other tissues and organs that makes cancer a potentially life-threatening disease, so there is great interest in understanding what makes metastasis possible for a cancerous tumor."

Right, well, as far as I can see it looks probable that the proteins that are supposed to inhibit metastasis have been whacked out of normal action due to "protein denaturation" caused by EMF's. Let's finish reading about "metastasis":


"Cells which have been thus altered will eventually undergo an event termed a "crisis" when the majority of the cells in the culture die. Sometimes, a cell does not stop dividing once it reaches crisis. Typically the telomeres are lost, and the integrity of the chromosomes declines with every subsequent cell division. Exposed chromosome ends are interpreted as a double stranded breaks (DSB) in DNA; such damage is usually repaired by reattaching (religating) the broken ends together. When the cell does this due to telomere shortening, the ends of different chromosomes can be attached together. This temporarily solves the problem of lacking telomeres, but during anaphase of cell division the fused chromosomes are randomly ripped apart causing many mutations and chromosomal abnormalities. As this process continues, the cell's genome becomes unstable. Eventually, either sufficient damage will be done to the cell's chromosomes such that cell dies (via programmed cell death (apoptosis or not), or an additional mutation will take place that activates telomerase."

As I am understanding it, during cell division it is creating an identical mirror of the first cell but because this cell has a protein that has been changed it is replicating more dodgy cells. More:

"With the activation of telomerase, some types of cells and their offspring become immortal, that is, their chromosomes won't become unstable no matter how many cell divisions they undergo (they bypass the Hayflick limit) thus avoiding cell death as long as the conditions for their duplication are met. Many cancer cells are considered 'immortal' because telomerase activity allows them to divide virtually forever, which is why they can form tumors. A good example of cancer cells' immortality is HeLa cells, which were originally removed from the cervical cancer of Henrietta Lacks in 1951 and are still used in laboratories as a model cell line. They are indeed immortal - daily production of HeLa cells is estimated at several tons even up to this day - all from the few cells taken from Ms. Lacks' tumor."

Does that seem too simple to anyone else? Of course, my explanation depends on whether I am correct about neg attachments causing EMF's in the cells but everything is pointing me in that direction. What needs to be done is a extremly sensitive EMF meter/scanner built and scan the "primary tumors" of Cancer patients to see if any EMF's show up. If they do, then I get the Nobel Prize LOL! :lol: :roll: OK, seriously, can someone knowledgable in biology show me where I went wrong? :oops:

[CFTraveler]

Unfortunately, EMF is only one of the causes of cancerous growth- viruses and almost any pathological process in cells can result in cancer, emf being one of them.
Without being any kind of expert in this, I would say that anything that irritates cells constantly enough (such as many infections in the same area, emf exposure (for the reasons previously explained in McArthur's post) And prolonged environmental pollution (as in the case of one type of lung cancer, for example)- in other words, any prolonged & excessive irritation can cause cancer in cells, for a variety of reasons. If I were going to extrapolate a little here, I would say that all these causes cause the chemical problem with the cell-killing system to go wrong and let the 'hinky' cells to start growing uncontrolled.

[McArthur]

Unfortunately, EMF is only one of the causes of cancerous growth- viruses and almost any pathological process in cells can result in cancer, emf being one of them.
Without being any kind of expert in this, I would say that anything that irritates cells constantly enough (such as many infections in the same area, emf exposure (for the reasons previously explained in McArthur's post) And prolonged environmental pollution (as in the case of one type of lung cancer, for example)- in other words, any prolonged & excessive irritation can cause cancer in cells, for a variety of reasons. If I were going to extrapolate a little here, I would say that all these causes cause the chemical problem with the cell-killing system to go wrong and let the 'hinky' cells to start growing uncontrolled.
Yes a good point, I was going to add this myself but couldn't get on here the past few days. I'm not suggesting Negs are the cause of all cancers, as some are apparently caused by virus ( human papilloma virus is one example that also causes DNA to mutate ). I'm also not suggesting Negs have any ability to cause cancers purposely but this is in fact a side-effect of them making an attachment point to someone and is somewhat random. Just adding some more to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomere

"Eventually, the last RNA attaches, and DNA polymerase and DNA ligase come along to convert the RNA (of the primers) to DNA, and seal the gaps in between the Okazaki fragments. But in order to change RNA to DNA, there must be another DNA strand in front of the RNA primer. This happens at all the sites of the lagging strand, but it doesn't happen at the end where the last RNA primer is attached. Ultimately, that RNA is destroyed by enzymes that degrade RNA left on the DNA. Thus, a section of telomeres is lost during each cycle of replication"

Not if the following has happened: "For those proteins that are enzymes, denaturation can be defined as the loss of enough structure to render the enzyme inactive. "

If the enyme is inactive then that last RNA doesn't get destroyed (or not destroyed properly) and no section of telomeres is lost as it's supposed to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis

"If a cell's capability of apoptosis is damaged (for example, by **mutation**), or if the initiation of apoptosis is blocked (by a virus), a damaged cell can continue dividing without restrictions, developing into cancer. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation

"Changes in DNA caused by mutation can cause errors in protein sequence, creating partially or completely non-functional proteins. To function correctly, each cell depends on thousands of proteins to function in the right places at the right times. When a mutation alters a protein [ which can be caused by EMF's - McA] that plays a critical role in the body, a medical condition can result."


When Robert Bruce says that a lot of attachment points will cause lumps this fits in with all of the above. Those lumps are caused by protein/cell mutation, a majority of which are 'benign' and non-cancerous. Of course, not all lumps are a sign of neg attachment as there could be other causes for these mutations.

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Next up I found some more interesting links on EM pulses being used in psychiatry to cure conditions ranging from depression to hallucinatory 'voices'.

Zapping Those Voices in The Head - Link (http://www.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_55970)

Zapping Those Voices in The Head

By Daniel DeNoon
WebMD Medical News
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March 23, 2000 (Atlanta) -- The voices sound real, and they won't go away. From deep within a schizophrenic patient's head, they relentlessly repeat their awful messages, which can urge suicide or even murder. Now help may be on the way: A report in the journal Lancet suggests that an electromagnetic device can zap the voices out of the head without hurting the brain.

The technique, rTMS, which stands for repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation, uses a handheld device to deliver a low-voltage electromagnetic pulse to a specific area of the brain. TMS pulses -- experienced as a tingling sensation -- do not damage the brain, although some patients report a minor headache due to muscle contractions of the face and scalp. The experimental devices have been able to help some patients with severe depression. Now Yale researcher Ralph E. Hoffman, MD, reports that rTMS can hush the voices haunting some schizophrenic patients -- one of the most difficult-to-treat symptoms known to psychiatry.

"I thought it was pretty remarkable," Hoffman, medical director of the Yale Psychiatric Institute, tells WebMD. "For a couple of patients, it seems to have had some lasting benefits. We are seeing a response rate now of up to 75%. For most of the patients who have a response, it seems to endure for months. It's frequently not a total response, but there is at least a 50% decrease in [auditory] hallucinations."

The voices technically are hallucinations, but this doesn't mean that they aren't real. "It is not in their imagination," Hoffman says. "They are having [the perception of hearing] in the same way we hear people around us. ... We compared the loudness of the hallucinations with [a recording of a person reading played at various volumes]. Some of these range up to 60 or 70 decibels -- really a loud sound."

During puberty, normal brain development goes through a process of fine-tuning by getting rid of unnecessary connections between areas of the brain. Hoffman's theory is that for some reason this process goes terribly wrong in some people, and too many brain connections are lost. One result can be a loss of proper function in the part of the brain that controls the way sounds are translated into speech, and in schizophrenic patients this leads to hearing voices in the head. If this is so, Hoffman says, then calming this part of the brain should quiet the voices. The rTMS device appears to do just that.

In an interview with WebMD, rTMS developer Alvaro Pascual-Leone, MD, PhD, says that the device originally was created as a way to map the language areas of the brain without surgery. While testing the device, he found that it had long-lasting effects on the brain. Depending on how, when, and where in the brain it was used, the rTMS had either a stimulating or calming effect. Taking advantage of these effects, he and other researchers began exploring whether rTMS could be used as an alternative to electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), sometimes called "shock therapy," in patients with severe depression. They have since expanded their studies to try the technique in patients with other psychiatric conditions, and Pascual-Leone finds the Hoffman results intriguing.

"Suppression of hallucination for months is fabulous and very interesting," Pascual-Leone says. "It is a very hard problem -- patients generally do not get very good responses even after long-term medication. To help with that aspect of the disease would be very helpful indeed."

Pascual-Leone, director of the Harvard laboratory of magnetic brain stimulation, notes that his group also is experimenting with rTMS as a treatment for schizophrenia. He says that one problem he has encountered is that when the effects of treatment wear off, some patients have worse symptoms than they did before undergoing the experimental therapy.

This rebound effect has not occurred in patients treated with rTMS for depression in studies under way at Emory University, according to William McDonald, MD, director of the Fuqua center for late-life depression. "The biggest concern is that it can cause seizures, so people are excluded from our studies if they have a history of seizures," he tells WebMD. "There is no apparent downside. There are no memory deficits, which gives rTMS an advantage over ECT."

Hoffman says he has undergone rTMS so that he could personally evaluate the effects. "It doesn't exactly feel like a shock but it feels weird, like a tingling sensation, kind of like a woodpecker tapping on the skull," he says. "It also causes a contraction of the scalp or face, and may produce other contractions. It feels odd, but by and large the patients tolerate it very well. But we have a selected group of patients who volunteer for this. They are pretty desperate, and their families are desperate."

One fear Hoffman was worried about was whether paranoid patients with a delusional fear that people were trying to control their brains would object to the use of electromagnetic waves to -- well, to control their brains. "It's something we are concerned about, but the patients have actually been reasonable," he says. "It is more acceptable to deal with someone actually trying to control their brain than their fears about it."

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Next article.

This Link takes you to the Abstract of the paper (http://journalsonline.tandf.co.uk/link.asp?id=lh4x17846326l529) if you want to see the entire text you just need to register for free.

Transcranial magnetic stimulation as a therapeutic tool in psychiatry - Wim Simons and Michel Dierick.



[i]
"Lower frequencies have showed to suppress neuronal activity. Currently it is accepted that high frequency rTMS (>1 Hz) causes immediate neuronal excitation, whereas low frequency rTMS (=1 Hz) causes immediate neuronal inhibition. Underlying possible mechanisms are still subject of preclinical research (Fitzgerald et al. 2002; George et al. 2002, 2003). Furthermore, it may be presumed that high frequency rTMS, enhancing neuronal excitability, can induce long-term potentialisation (LTP) intersynaptic transmission. Analogously low frequency rTMS would cause long-term depression (LTD)."

[Right, so low frequency EMF's to certain parts of the brain may cause Depression. Are there any Neg victims that haven't had depression?]

"Also human neuro-endocrine research adds support to the possibility of TMS influencing mood. In depressed patients, a disinhibition of the limbic–hypothalamicâ€â⠂¬Å“pituitary–adrenocortical (LHPA) axis is well documented. Normalisation of its function has been associated with clinical response to classical antidepressant therapy. Similar changes were measured in studies applying rTMS (George et al. 1996b; Cohrs et al. 1998; Pridmore 1999; Reid and Pridmore 1999; Szuba et al. 2000, 2001; Pridmore et al. 2001; Burt et al. 2002; Padberg et al. 2002a; Padberg and Möller 2003; Zwanzger et al. 2003)."

[Are EMF's causing this disfunction of the LHPA and if so what is the source of these EMFs?]

"Next to these preclinical studies, a few studies investigated the clinical effect of prefrontal rTMS on mood in normal volunteers (Schlaepfer et al. 2003). Some show transient brief and discrete mood- lifting or -lowering changes with stimulation of the left dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (left DLPF) or right dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (right DLPF) (George et al. 1996b; Pascual-Leone et al. 1996; Dearing et al. 1997). This raises an important mood issue relevant to TMS: laterality of the brain. According to the laterality hypothesis of mood, the left hemisphere would be responsible for positive emotions while the right hemisphere would evoke negative emotions (Padberg and Möller 2003). This could explain why dysfunctions in the left orbitofrontal and prefrontal cortex were noted in depressed patients, ischemic lesions in the left prefrontal cortex also resulted more often in post-stroke depression than right-sided lesions and anatomical and functional imaging (CAT, MR, SPECT and PET) studies in primary and secondary depressions show abnormalities in the left prefrontal cortex. Some TMS studies in healthy subjects also support this laterality hypothesis. One study using low frequency rTMS at 130% MT in female subjects showed right-sided stimulation to result in selective attention towards angry faces in a pictorial emotional stroop task, whereas left-sided identical stimulation produced selective attention away from them (d'Alfonso et al. 2000). In other studies mood states varied from reported feelings of frustration, sadness and even spontaneous weeping after right DLPF TMS to feelings of happiness after left DLPF TMS. There were some cases of short-lasting hypomania after left DLPF rTMS in healthy human volunteers (Nedjat and Folkerts 1999). Recent studies, however, failed to replicate lateralised effects of prefrontal rTMS on mood (Mosimann et al. 2000; Padberg and Möller 2003). For example, lower frequencies (1 Hz), supposed to suppress brain excitability, applied to the right DLPF did not induce mood changes in 19 healthy volunteers (Jenkins et al. 2002). Differences in used TMS parameter settings can partly explain these incongruous results."


[i]
"Psychotic disease

Beneficial effects of rTMS on psychosis as a whole have not been observed until today (Klein et al. 1999; McNamara et al. 2001). Psychotic depression does not respond as well to rTMS as to ECT. Two treatment-resistant depressed females developed psychotic symptoms with high frequency rTMS over the left prefrontal cortex. The symptoms resolved after discontinuing rTMS (Conca et al. 2002). Zwanzger et al. (2002) reported the occurrence of recurrent severe delusions in one nonpsychotic depressed patient treated with rTMS. A possible explanation is the enhancement of dopaminergic neurotransmission caused by rTMS (Strafella et al. 2001, 2003).

[So EM pulses can cause psychosis..... ]

There is one symptom of psychosis, namely hallucinations, which can be the target for rTMS because it originates from brain regions in reach of the magnetic field: imaging studies show activation in the right and left superior temporal cortex, Brocca's area and the left temporo-parietal region of people suffering from acoustic hallucinations (Hoffman et al. 2003). In a first clinical trial, a statistically significant improvement was observed on a hallucination scale after 10 days of rTMS at the left auditory cortex in nine medication-resistant hallucinating patients (d'Alfonso et al. 2002). In two double-blind sham-controlled trials low frequency (1 Hz) rTMS over the left temporo-parietal cortex produced a decrease in acoustic hallucinations over time in 36 schizophrenic patients. A substantial part of the responders (52%) showed sustained improvements at 15 weeks follow-up. They also paid significantly less attention to the hallucinations (Hoffman et al. 2000, 2003).

[McArthur]

Zapping Those Voices in The Head - Link (http://www.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_55970)

Hoffman says he has undergone rTMS so that he could personally evaluate the effects. "It doesn't exactly feel like a shock but it feels weird, like a tingling sensation, kind of like a woodpecker tapping on the skull," he says. "It also causes a contraction of the scalp or face, and may produce other contractions.
I just read Nikpalj's thread HERE (http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=1490&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=360)
where he quotes the following from another neg victim called "Need" from the astralpulse forums:



"There is a heavy propulsion to it and it knocks my head like a woodpecker forcing energy into my head. There are at least fifty different strands of the wires forcing energy into my physical body. This new network of wires were not there before my problems started. "

There's just no way this is mere coincidence. Both Dr. Hoffman and "Need" were experiencing EM pulses to their heads and described it in the same way, the difference being that one was using a machine and the other being attacked by a neg using EM pulses to his head.

[McArthur]

Questions:
How do the following affect an EM field (say 5 microteslas) when introduced into the center of the field:

1. A plastic hosepipe of fast running water.


From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism

"Electromagnetism is the physics of the electromagnetic field; a field encompassing all of space which exerts a force on particles that possess the property of electric charge, and is in turn affected by the presence and motion of those particles. "

http://www.abc.net.au/science/surfingsc ... bender.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/science/surfingscientist/waterbender.htm)

"If you bring the comb near the surface of a glass of still water, nothing happens. But moving water is a different story as you saw. The stream of water contains water molecules which possess an electric charge. Static electric fields can force moving charged particles to change direction and this is what’s happening when you bring the comb near the stream of water."

So is this why the running water though hosepipe works on negs, it is affecting their EM fields??

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Coming soon: Lightning is a PLASMA and how this relates to certain lightning victims being cured of possible neg-related illness (see earlier posts in this thread for examples).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29

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Thoughts for The Future: Will future generations of World Leaders be screened for negs using sophisticated Em scanners so as to make sure they have no resident negs influencing their decisions (and health)?

[Robert Bruce]

G'day Folks!

MacAuthur asked me to check out this link, and I'm so glad I did. This is quite possibly the most interesting thread I've ever read on this subject. Please keep up the good work. It is only by research and experimentation that we can ever hope to find more and more effective and workable solutions. Some of this material should be compiled into a FAQ, if someone would like the task? This could then be added to the main website PPSD section. I'd do it myself but am swamped, and on the road again.

I am particularly thankful (understatement) for the link to the experiment involving the running water and comb effect -- totally awesome.

When negs manifest in our dimension, they are composed of or generate fairly strong EM fields (This I have proven time and time again, eg, the face that got burned into my pc monitor during a heavy neg attack on my son could only have been caused by a magnetic field - the damage was so dense that the desktop could not be seen beneath and I had to degausse it several times. Oh, the face was the size of a human head, and it had stumpy little horns).

Given the running water / comb experiment, as the stream of water is repulsed and made to physically bend away from the static charge in the comb, then obviously there is huge comparitive pressure being exerted on the static EM field of the comb. So, if negs manifest in a bubble of static EM, then this could explain why they are repulsed by running water, and have extreme difficulty crossing same.

Note, I have known negs to cross a garden hose while attacking persons, but only to be stopped cold when persons cross a main water line or stream. So the volume of running water is important.

If we could somehow generate the same field caused by running water, without the water, this could be the holy grail of anti neg countermeasures.

I have known a lot of people to use fans as countermeasures, with some success. I suspect there are a number of factors involved, including air movement, and the EM field of the electric motor.

I have an idea if someone would like to try a bit of weird science. Get a cheap tent and erect it in your bedroom. Get some spray glue or etc and cover the tent completely in aluminium foil, including underneath. (sheets of steel wool could also be used) Earth the tent by attaching a copper wire (jumper leads) to a water pipe. Sleep inside and see what happens. This setup should heavily ground any EM field.

An alternative would be to build a makeshift Faraday cage: get some metal chicken wire mesh and shape it into a tent or tube, earth this and sleep inside. If anyone does this, please let me know results.

The idea is to create a shielded and grounded area where the internal environment can be easily controlled.

It has become obvious to me over the years that neg interference with human energy body and mind is a *delicate process* that can easily be disrupted by very simple means, eg, running water, etc. Finding the right combination of simple means (or high tech means) is the trick.

Update to PPSD: If two people are in close proximity, you are probably awaren that negs in one person can and will interfere with the other. Further to this, if two people share a bed, and one experiences neg interference in energy body, eg, pains and fluttering in feet, this can and will often transfer into the feet of the other person. The other person can then experience ongoing neg interference. However, if this person is not suitable material as a neg host, then the interference will progressively weaken and eventually fall away over a few days or weeks.

*Some volunteers have created neg interference reduction by spreading plastic under their beds and applying a thin layer of cheap salt to this. (negs are for all intents and purposes 2D beings bound to surface of the earth. This appears to be why they are so focused on the feet. This factor is a huge weakness that needs to be exploited more.)

Again, thank you all and please keep up the good thinking and work.

Take care, Robert

[McArthur]

G'day Robert, thanks for your input. :D



If we could somehow generate the same field caused by running water, without the water, this could be the holy grail of anti neg countermeasures.

I think I remember someone mentioning electric blankets having some effect. When funds allow I'll be doing a lot of experimenting, one of them using electric blanket or maybe coiled electric cable with a current running through it under the bed. Then gradually add more things (hose pipe, faraday cage etc) to test the effects. Luckily the negs seem to still want to interefer so they are willing subjects for these experiments. :wink: (only last night I woke up semi-OOBE with one sucking on my nose, felt just like two big soft lips. I managed to pull my Etheric head away from it and bit into one of its "lips" really hard, it was like biting into rubbery jelly).


I have an idea if someone would like to try a bit of weird science. Get a cheap tent and erect it in your bedroom. Get some spray glue or etc and cover the tent completely in aluminium foil, including underneath. (sheets of steel wool could also be used) Earth the tent by attaching a copper wire (jumper leads) to a water pipe. Sleep inside and see what happens. This setup should heavily ground any EM field.

An alternative would be to build a makeshift Faraday cage: get some metal chicken wire mesh and shape it into a tent or tube, earth this and sleep inside. If anyone does this, please let me know results.

Aha you just reminded me of something. A person in a local New Age type shop had told me his wife suffered from sensitivity to EM fields (and neg related things) and they bought one of these faraday cages that is like a mosquito net over the bed and he says her problems at night have reduced drastically.

Faday Canopy (http://www.blockemf.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=763&products_id=5053)
"We slept well for the first time since 1998. The high pitched tone in our ears is much less under the canopy and we feel much less nervous. It's a wonderful feeling to be under the canopy"
R.M. (UK) 7/2000

So I do plan on trying it eventually, although that canopy is a bit expensive so will probably attempt making one myself with thick copper wiring. Oh btw, did you read Bardons Evocation book where he suggests using a circle of copper cable around the bed attached to the magicians sword that is stuck into the floor as protection from negs/demons? So I may try that but also have an electric current running through it also.

[McArthur]

Oh, in addition I recently stopped a neg directly interfering with my crown chakra by placing a handful of tumbled quartz crystals in my hat (around 10 of them) and wearing it so the crystals were held on top of my head where I felt the interference. I had been using them under my mattress but didn't notice too much effect, but directly against the body seems to do something.

The salt baths are definitely working though and this may be partly because the addition of salt makes it extra conductive thus soaking up energy fields more efficiently. What was interesting is that the neg attached around my feet was moving and as it did so it seemed like the water around my feet was moving slightly also.

[CFTraveler]

McArthur wrote:
using a circle of copper cable around the bed attached to the magicians sword that is stuck into the floor as protection from negs/demons? So I may try that but also have an electric current running through it also. It seems to me that the copper pipe would ground all energies through the sword. But if it is grounded putting an electric current through it could be dangerous, make sure that the electric wire is well isolated from the copper part.

[McArthur]

It seems to me that the copper pipe would ground all energies through the sword. But if it is grounded putting an electric current through it could be dangerous, make sure that the electric wire is well isolated from the copper part.
Thanks CFT, I normally put these warnings in myself so am glad you did it for me. :D

Next up: I mentioned in one of my EM filed threads that I think Electrnic Voice Phenomena is done by spirits using EM fields. Well, I've been playing around doing some recordings and have some files for people to listen to.

This one I have just done an hour ago and is the clearest one I have managed to do so far. I used a microcassette recorder held close to my computer speakers that were on full so they were hissing with white noise. There are two files here but are the same recording as I thought I would try putting my pc microphone in 2 different positions to see which records best to wav file from the microcassette speaker. I have named them "Maaaark" (and Maaaark2) because I can hear the voice saying my name many times but saying it as "Maaaaaaark" rather than a short "Mark". I have a couple of sentences I think I can hear clearly but thought I would let people listen first so as not to taint what anyone might hear. I find it best if it is played very loud in order to hear the EVP clearly.

http://savefile.com/projects/1028933

Anyone that listens to the EVP recordings and if you can make out any words could you post them here along with the file name (one or two) and at what seconds you hear them (for instance "Mark2 (blah blah)" 52 to 55 seconds)?

Best regards
Mark
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

-Robert A. Heinlein

One thing I have been meaning to try in regards to this is an EM pulse. These are supposedly illegal to buy however. (If this was covered my apoligies, I haven't had time to read up on all of this yet.)

My theory is that the EM pulse would knock the etheric energy of the neg in question around too much for it to keep it's hold on you. Granted, however, this would only be a temporary measure at it would not allow the necessary healing in the aura to occur, and the hole in the aura would allow the neg easy access back in.

[McArthur]

http://savefile.com/projects/1028933

Anyone that listens to the EVP recordings and if you can make out any words could you post them here along with the file name.

OK well I have two much clearer files uploaded now so there are four in total so far. I mentioned in a previous post that this "spirit" (I've decided to stop calling it a Neg) was using the buzzing sound from a small electric fan to manifest a voice I could hear. It also does it with my vacuum cleaner and last night it was doing it using a friends aquarium pump I was cleaning. Today it started using my hard drive. This hard drive is pretty old and very noisy whenever I am using some software on it. The spirit is using the noise from the hard drive and somehow modulating/fluctuating it so that you actually hear a voice. :shock:

Some parts of these latest two files it goes quiet (or the voice breaks up) because I was having to keep clicking on stuff and opening software to keep the hard drive making a noise. Anyway, it has come out pretty clear I think! I recorded the second one after realising people might think it is some local CB radio or something it is picking up. So I asked the spirit to say the words "hard drive" to prove it could hear me and to make sure it isn't just radio interference or something and, well, listen for yourself! :shock:

Same link as above. Importantly, everything it has used to manifest a voice has magnets in them.

edit: p.s. The spirit in question is somehow reading my thoughts because at one point I thought it sounded like my late mother.... but the spirit then said (using the hard drive noises), "I'm not your F***ing mother" - I wasn't recording at this point so don't have it on tape.

[McArthur]

edit: p.s. The spirit in question is somehow reading my thoughts because at one point I thought it sounded like my late mother.... but the spirit then said (using the hard drive noises), "I'm not your F***ing mother" - I wasn't recording at this point so don't have it on tape.

OMG! I mention above where I remembered it saying "I'm not your mother" (although I thought it swore) and didn't think I had recorded that part - But I've just noticed it is there on the HardDriveNoise.mp3 (Hard Drive Noise/voice) .... I was merely thinking (not speaking!) it might have been my mother, and it responded by saying it isn't !!! You can hear it clear as day at 1:04 (1 minute 4 seconds into the mp3). Can someone else please listen and verify this for me???

[McArthur]

If there is a problem accessing the first link, I have uploaded the latter two files to a seperate hosting site.

HardDriveNoise.mp3 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/7fd3b2d0-dfb8-4551-8799-36620180c5d8/HardDriveNoise.mp3) (the first recording)

HardDriveWORDS.mp3 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/6b08d900-3acf-4f91-bff0-4b17385cd1f3/HardDriveWORDS.mp3) (the recording where I ask it to say "hard drive")

Right click the links and select "save as".

[McArthur]

So has anyone had a listen to those last two yet and heard what I am hearing? I need some input here folks to verify I'm not just hallucinating.

[McArthur]

Has no-one taken a listen to these? I've taken a couple of snippets from the entire recordings and made them into short 10 second snips of where I am hearing something (two occasions of the many on the whole recordings).

Here is the one where I hear it say "I'm not your mother" (http://savefile.com/files/188102) (click highlighted text)

And on this short clip it sounds something like "Oh you think I'm wonderful, f***k off" (http://savefile.com/files/188107)

I'd appreciate some feedback please, even if it is to say you don't hear anything.

[McArthur]

Coming soon: Lightning is a PLASMA and how this relates to certain lightning victims being cured of possible neg-related illness (see earlier posts in this thread for examples).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29

I'll update this thread when I can. I've been researching Rife machines that push a high voltage charge through a Plasma tube and the many claims of ailments it appears to help people with. Many of these ailments seem to me to be neg related and it is the force fields given off by the plasma (mini lightning) that may be ridding people and their homes of negs.

How to make a plasma tube driver (http://www.holman.net/rife/Poor_Man_s_Rife/PMR_HV_Plasma_Rife/PMR_-_Plasma_Tube_Driver/pmr_-_plasma_tube_driver.html)

http://www.rifelabs.com/

http://www.geocities.com/rifetube/gallery.html

I managed to manifest a Light saber in a very real lucid dream/astral last night. Those plasma tubes look very similar.

[CFTraveler]

BTW the first link didn't work for me and I heard just static on the second. Was it really short, or is there something wrong with my player? If it is short, maybe it needs to be slowed down.

[McArthur]

BTW the first link didn't work for me and I heard just static on the second. Was it really short, or is there something wrong with my player? If it is short, maybe it needs to be slowed down.
Both links are working for me.... although a bit slow to download. It is a really short snippet, best to play it over and over a few times, it's as plane as day to me what is being said. The "voice" is the actually noises, don't expect to hear a human voice. I think perhaps it just takes a bit of listening to attune to where the voice is, kind of like those "magic posters" you get where some can't see the picture...

[anonymous159]

That pic is gruesome. Besides that this is a good thread.

Ed. for spelling-CF.

[McArthur]

That pic is gruesome. Besides that this is a good thread.
I just edited it out after re-checking this thread :shock: I had used someone else's picture url for a rife tube and I guess they changed it because of my usage of their bandwidth :oops:

[anonymous159]

ooops, it happens sometimes. Mc Arthur do you know what products are top priority? The thread has allot of gadgets. Mc Arthur, Im confused which ones are the best for negs, talking from your experience?

You can call me a noob :evil:

*****


:)

[McArthur]

Mc Arthur do you know what products are top priority? The thread has allot of gadgets. Mc Arthur, Im confused which ones are the best for negs, talking from your experience?

Until recently I haven't had the cash to buy any of the EM pulsers so I can't say if they actually work or not, or even which ones. The only experience I have is with the low Em pulses given off by the beard/hair clippers I mention in this thread that has helped me many times to stop a direct neg attack to my head area (crown, ears, back on neck). The beard trimmer I measured with the Trifield meter (I'm buying another of these meters also) was giving off around 6-12 microTeslas. Compare this to the output of the Pulsers I am buying below (I'm hoping for some really good results or I wouldn't be investing over $1,000 !).

100 microTeslas = 1 Gauss

I have just ordered this one:

This one outputs an oscillating AC pulse field ($425) ~620 peak Gauss per pulse (it's an oscillating field like the MRI scanners which is why even though it's not as strong as the one below I want to test it)
http://magpulser.com/

And it will be with me within the next 2 weeks and I'll report back in this thread after I have had time to experiment with it on attachment points.

I also want to buy this one:

This one is a DC (non-oscillating but strong) adjustable "Rife" pulser. ($629) ~50,000 Gauss per pulse
http://www.highpowermagneticpulser.com/

But I've read there is a 2 month backlog on orders on that last one so I have emailed him to ask and am awaiting reply.

That's over $1k but after doing so much research that leads me to believe EM pulses are beneficial against neg related problems I would be totally stupid to not try these out while I have the cash. Of course, if you're good at electrics you can make one much cheaper than this with a solenoid and car alternator connected to a coil.

[Astral Exorcist]

A neat thread however slightly old. 159 thanks for digging it out. It relates well with electromagnetic magnet underlays for mattress that I've recently catched a fever in interest. Geosh, I took me a while to get threw your thread Arthur. This could be the future of technology and non physical protection. I can't get into terms that this is how well the technology is, now a days. It somewhat reminds of alien technology since it's so dam advance that people come up with these things. It's made me put more self thought value as into why, money is so important. Don't want to waste any penny on impulse shopping anymore. Their is a wide variety of awesome products flouting around somewhere people !

From Robert Bruce


*Some volunteers have created neg interference reduction by spreading plastic under their beds and applying a thin layer of cheap salt to this. (negs are for all intents and purposes 2D beings bound to surface of the earth. This appears to be why they are so focused on the feet. This factor is a huge weakness that needs to be exploited more.)

I would love to state to Robert Bruce, that the 2 dimension negs do exist. To encourage and to support Robert Bruces theory. I have a strong feeling that if their is 2 dimension since a few weeks back I seen astral legs running across my rooms curtain. Their must be 3 dimension. and who knows their must be :arrow:
4dimension.

It's highly advisable if neg victims who are seriously abused, and by all means are in desperate times searching for nurturing protection should be the last resort as listed here. Don't forget this thread and the magnet mattress, I've shown in my previous postings. :arrow:

As for me Im broke, it sucks. So I can't afford anything to awesome atm.

[McArthur]

Has no-one taken a listen to these? I've taken a couple of snippets from the entire recordings and made them into short 10 second snips of where I am hearing something (two occasions of the many on the whole recordings).

Here is the one where I hear it say "I'm not your mother" (http://savefile.com/files/188102) (click highlighted text)

And on this short clip it sounds something like "Oh you think I'm wonderful, f***k off" (http://savefile.com/files/188107)

I'd appreciate some feedback please, even if it is to say you don't hear anything.
Strange, those links no longer work and I'm not sure why. I'll try and figure it out later or upload to somewhere else... if I can find the wav files on my old hard drive.... (why am I not surprised? Perhaps the same reason I'm not surprised that my order of 16 books from amazon.com about Entity Possession and Exorcism etc back in February has "gone missing" and I'm still waiting for my replacement order. Or that my EM pulser is taking longer to arrive than anticipated. - No, not a conspiracy of Humans; Demonic interference has many levels unfortunately, and "human error" sometimes isn't *just* human error...).

[McArthur]

Well I ordered the EM pulser on the 14th April and it looks like it hasn't been sent yet, still waiting...

I've just ordered another natural Trifield meter from here:

http://www.trifield.com/EMF_natural.htm

Including Express delivery so hopefully I'll get that soon. Once I do, and if I get similar results to the last one I had, I'll take some videos of the meter picking up the EM fluctuations and upload them somewhere.

[McArthur]

I've received the pulser and am experimenting with it, I'll wait until I have used it longer before posting more.

Here's an interesting article on EM pulsing:

Magnets may boost brain and correct memory loss (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1832267.ece)

"Magnetic stimulation of the brain could improve memory, according to new research that holds promise for treating Alzheimer’s disease and other forms of dementia.

Experiments on mice have suggested that coils generating magnetic fields can strengthen brain circuits in ways that enhance learning and the animals’ ability to remember."

[snip. full article at link]

"Use of magnets in medicine dates back to classical Greece, when rings of magnetised metal were used to treat arthritis

Paracelsus, a prominent physician [McA: And occult magician] in the 15th century, believed that magnetic forces energised the body and promoted self-healing. This concept was further developed and used by Mesmer, who used magnets to treat patients

In the Middle Ages, doctors used magnets to treat gout, arthritis, poisoning, and baldness; to clean wounds and to retrieve arrowheads from the body

They have been sold for conditions, including pain, respiratory problems, high blood pressure, circulatory problems, arthritis, rheumatism, and stress

Source: National Institutes of Health"

[Astral Exorcist]

Magnets may increase effectiveness once you consume the RDI of multi mineral supplements long term.

[McArthur]

Well, it has been a while, it's about time I added more stuff here. I am still looking into the magnets and pulsers etc and been finding some pretty interesting new products! In one of the posts in this thread I say:

"Clothing with coating/lining of many layers of nano-sized crystals as a possible shield? "

Oh it looks like they're making something potentially much better: Magnetic Far Infra Red Socks (http://tinyurl.com/55puan). I contacted one seller of them and he basically says that "the socks are polyester and lycra plus natural magnetic silver fibres approxamately 500 gauss strength, these fibres also provide the infrared rays." Interesting anyway, I shall buy a pair to go with a pair of HoMedics Magnetic Slippers (http://www.scalesexpress.com/product.php?productid=16641&cat=296&page=1) I'm also about to purchase. :mrgreen:

Robert says the main attack point by entities is the feet and I definitely have to admit this is where I am getting most my problems lately. I find using a good foot spa helps as not only is it whirling (salt) water but there's bound to be EM fields given off too. Talking of which, I just found another few great gadgets, how about an Infrared Magnetic Pulse Device (http://www.tradekey.com/selloffer_view/id/1649165.htm) for your feet? :P

http://img1.tradekey.com/images/uploadedimages/offers/1/3/B262650-20080229083713.jpg

Also, this Pulsed Magnetic Field Therapy Mat (http://www.braintuner.com/qrt.htm) is exactly the kind of thing I've been looking for!
http://www.braintuner.com/images/frau-liegend_matte_neu.gif
"The Quantron-Resonance System (QRS) is an advanced Pulsed Magnetic Field Therapy system for preventative self-treatment. Pulsed Magnetic Field Therapy can benefit individuals of any age group and any level of wellness or fitness. QRS is especially beneficial for elderly or sedentary individuals who are not engaging in regular exercise. QRS is the culmination of over 20 years' research at leading European universities and it has been tested at six different university hospitals. The QRS has been successfully used by thousands of individuals world-wide with no negative side-effects. Automated programming makes the QRS easy to use for the health care practitioner and home users as well.

QRS is a fast and easy to use tool for pain management and recovery from sports injuries, lower back pain, muscle aches and pains, headaches, nervous tension and stress,high blood pressure and degenerative conditions related to aging. Daily use of the QRS also improves immune-system function and general health. There are many magnetic mattress pads available that utilize a system of permanent magnets sewn into the pad material. The QRS should not be confused with these steady field permanent magnet pads. It has been widely demonstrated that Pulsing Magnetic Fields produce far superior results than may be obtained from permanent magnets alone."

A bit expensive though. :?

I'm thinking of something a bit more enclosed, like an MRI machine in hospitals that a person lies in and is surrounded by. You have 7 coils along the length of the body that pulse in synchronized timing like a combustion engine. The one at the head pulses first, then the one at neck a fraction of a second later and etc down to the feet. This creates a waves of pulses going from the head to feet in an attempt to force any negs back out of the feet where they got in. Just a pipe-dream at the moment but I might get round to one some day.

Hey muse do you still visit here? I'm about to purchase some of those Sonic Pest controllers that muse suggested.

Link that muse gave upthread. (http://www.pestrepellerultimate.net/product_comparison.htm)

The ones that are Electromagnetic look very interesting I can't believe I've not tried these yet! The one I'm gonna get for now uses both Ultra Sonic and EM pulses. The way it does the EM pulses is you plug it into the mains and it sends EM pulses through your electrical wiring!!! I can barely wait to try one of these out ! It will mean your wiring, plug sockets, light sockets etc have low EM field pulses through them, just the very thing I was thinking might deter potential negs (as well as mosquitoes, rats etc). If your wiring encircles your room then you're basically going to have a kind of protective magic circle... I really hope these work.

[McArthur]

And seeing as Robert has written about a Neg named Sharkey (and about his other real Shark experience), I'll include the Ultimate Anti-Neg Suit to this thread. Not only would this suit protect you against sharks, but it would probably act as a shield against Em fields and negs too.. maybe. (They're made out of chainmail, like a Knights Armor )

http://theringlord.com/images/commercial/neptunic2.gif

http://theringlord.com/images/commercial/neptunic3.jpg

I wonder if you could sleep in one comfortably? :wink:

[Fish]

Looks comfy to wear to bed that :)

[McArthur]

I've been looking at old metal helmets on ebay or something similar as I tried the foil ( :shock: :lol: ) and it didn't do much apart from keep my head warm :P . But I want to try some thick Iron helmets or Iron sheet shaped to fit the head as i think Iron (or maybe steel) has some anti-neg potential. I'll try anything once or twice, no matter how crazy it seems.
Well I have finally got around to buying a helmet :mrgreen: it should arrive tomorrow:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/sleeplesssolitude2/helmet.jpg

Stand by your beds! Attention! :P War on Negs! :twisted: Grab your helmets Soldiers!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/sleeplesssolitude2/military_35.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/sleeplesssolitude2/military_48.gif

(Thanks go to http://www.free-animations.co.uk/index.html for the free gifs)


I'll wear it daily to see what happens and then maybe try coating the inside with various other things such as steel wool and magnets, looking forward to these experiments!

If you don't have a sense of humour then Don't watch this (http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php) but even though I think there is something to this shielding of the head I thought the lyrics were pretty clever. :roll: Just some light entertainment on our journey to the place of the Holy Grail. :wink:

Also that magnetic foot spa in my recent post, well I found a supplier who does samples at $48 for the cheapest (http://www.northead.net/Product_764.html) which doesn't seem too bad (they have others)?

[McArthur]

Just bought One of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ultrasonic-pest-control-advanced-repeller-mice-rats_W0QQitemZ350077438144QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 350077438144&_trksid=p3911.m14.l1318) Ultrasonic and Magnetic Field pulser pest controllers to add to my anti-neg weapons arsenal. :mrgreen: I'll report back on my findings, it would be a huge Blessing if something like this actually works on negs, and costs only £8 including postage. :D

"Simply plug into an unobstructed wall socket and a high frequency sound repells whilst the phase shift current runs through the wiring of your house creating an electromagnetic field to form an effective barrier against rodents.
Provides years of useful operation.
Covers up to 232 square meters 2500 square feet."

(p.s. I'm not associated with any of these sellers, links to gadgets given at random, etc etc)

[McArthur]

Well Robert has posted some latest countermeasures against negs HERE (http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=12407) and one of the interesting parts is the grounding thing "sleeping earthed". I especially like the look of those sheets you use on the bed then hook them up to ground.

I had bought finely meshed aluminium insect mesh and have been in the process of building a kind of metallic mosquito net over the bed (including going underneath the mattress. It is basically a kind of faraday cage which when finished and perhaps grounded, would hopefully be a decent shield against negs. Even in its unfinished stage (the parts by the feet and head still need adding when I get back to Spain) I was feeling some pretty good results, much more relaxed, less neg activity etc.

I hadn't realised you could get metallic bed sheets! They're doing basically something very similar to what I was setting up (faraday cage), as well as grounding. Just like that anti-shark suit really. So I looked at the sheets here: http://www.sleepingearthed.com/

And full size bed sheets are $478 ouch. So I looked at what they are made of and it says:

"Bed Pads are made of 50%cotton/50% polyester fiber (230 thread count) with embedded, conductive, inherently antimicrobial silver yarn."

Well after some more searching I find that metallic yarn is pretty easy to get hold of, and so is the fiber - at greatly reduced prices. Some fibers that are also used in the fashion industry (yes you can wear clothing with mettalic yarn in!) are "metallic organza" and "Lurex". Like This stuff for example (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lurex-Brocade-Fabric-Silver-and-White_W0QQitemZ190232594907QQcmdZViewItem) that is:

"55% Metal / 45% Nylon."

At only £6.50 per meter you could probably make one of those metallic sheets for around £20.

The Far infrared socks are made from similar fabric from what I can tell. You can get all kinds of clothing in it as well, from dresses to shirts or long-johns etc. They give off EM fields and far-infrared rays, can't wait to get some! :mrgreen:

[McArthur]

From a post upthread:


I think I remember someone mentioning electric blankets having some effect.
Hmmmm, isn't an electric blanket basically very similar to those "sleeping earthed" things? 8) Yes in fact they are very similar. Both have some metal in them and both are connected to the mains ground. But does the metal have to be actually touching your skin for the full effect? If so you get an old electric blanket, unplug the main wires from the electric plug and connect them to an earthed wire (I wouldn't use the electric mains Earth if I were you..... ) that is attached to either a grounded pole or the plumbing. Then just cut some of the cloth away to expose some of the coiled wire inside the electric blanket so that it touches your skin while you're asleep. And voila! One super cheap "Sleeping Earthed" blanket setup, just saved you $500. :mrgreen:

[DAN]

Roberts quote

Working Analogy.... All negative energies and entities that trouble humans are bound to the surface of the earth in a thin energy layer that is barely understood. Negative entities can be likened to EM entities, in that they live in an EM dimension. They interact with humans on the EM level, with the EM aspects of the human body and mind. To an EM entity, a grounded/earthed area would appear as a potential well, as a chasm that it cannot cross. If forced into an EM deep grounding situation, the energies of negs are grounded and the neg's presence close to the physical dimension is demanfested. If this concerns a ghost or x human earthbound spirit, the same applies and the spirit will then be forced to move on to the next level of existence to begin processing its past life. Once this occurs, it would be difficult if not impossible to return to close to the earth plane. So in this sense, grounding an earthbound spirit is helping it move on into the light, so to speak.

Using the above working analogy, the value of grounding and grounding products is obvious. Could it be this simple...I think so.

A power outlet contains a deep grounding/earthing point that has a wire that is connected to a steel spike driven several feet into the earth. This makes it convenient to connect to with grounding devices.

Metal plumbing fixtures and pipes also provide deep grounding. Metal spikes can be driven into the earth to provide deep grounding outlets that are independent of power outlet grounding or metal plumbing.

All grounding like this, whether a power outlet grounding wire or plumbing is used, are safe to use. The laws of physics concerning electricity say that electricity will always seek the most direct path to ground. This is never 'through' anything and there is no spill over into devices connected to the earthing cable. If in doubt, use plumbing water pipes. A simple alligator clip and cable will suffice to establish an effective grounding.

Deep grounding is different from just touching the earth. This is why an electrical grounding must be driven several feet into the earth to be effective. Simply standing on bare earth is not enough for effective EM or electrical grounding.

I'm probably not right here because electricity is not my thing been shocked good by a very strong electric fence. (working on changing irragation line and fighting the riser on main line, located under electric fence while standing in ankle deep water. And touching my forehead on electric fence :mrgreen: ) So a little gun shy

But it seems like you'd need a system more on the basis like an electric fence to drain a neg!
[attachment=0:19j44bur]efence.gif[/attachment:19j44bur]
This makes a little more sense to me

[McArthur]

Nice post Dan, only just seen it! Just came online to post about something I am about to buy and try, generally called a "violet Ray" machine. I was reading This Link (http://www.roanoke.com/columnists/angleberger/wb/137662) and some interesting testimonials, especially this:

"Still works perfectly to this day," he reports. "It has done wonders for everything -- warts, moles, stuff, it's just unbelievable. It's a super little machine."

I will probably be buying a working vintage model but there are cheaper new small ones made in Ukraine for less than 100dollars on ebay. They give of various EM pulse waves, radio waves, electric etc...

Some dearer ones here with info: http://www.nickandmorphia.com/

[McArthur]

Well, just bought my mini-lightning-in-a-box. :twisted:

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/4/9/6/1/7/webimg/252377663_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/4/9/6/1/7/webimg/252377769_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/4/9/6/1/7/webimg/252377709_o.jpg

A few very cheap ones going on ebay at the moment: Item number: 220406125955 for example, only 65 pound!

They are basically a Tesla coil attached to various plasma-type tubes (am currently looking for extra attachments as I think you can get Plasma Bulbs to fit), and VERY strong. Apparently Edgar Cayce mentions these over 800 times in his readings, recommending them for various ailments. Although the modern mind sees them as "quack" pseudo science a lot of people are still claiming to gain benefits from them. So I will give it a go and see for myself.

I will probably be able to use the base unit for various other experiments as well, due to it being a high voltage generator (HVG) like a sort of Rife machine (although the frequencies can not be altered as it stands). One experiment I saw people doing was to attach a HVG to a sheet of steel, place it on the floor and covered with a sheet of glass (very dangerous if you dont know what youre doing!). You then sit with your feet on the glass. As I have main neg problems at my feet (RB says this is our main weak point), I will want to try this out to see if I can blast them with some high voltage.

Next best thing to being struck by lightning :roll: :mrgreen:

Am not sure but may also be able to attach a copper coil I had specially made (was trying to make my own EM pulse machine) and try that out as well.

[McArthur]

Just reading the info on the Ebay listing of the seller from Ukraine, very interesting!

Seller: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/q_ua_s_a_r/

(Disclaimer: I have no association with this or the previous ebay seller etc etc)

Some info on ebay item: 330325922911 ( $61 ... I have seen these on websites selling for well over $200 )

The violet ray is recommend in the readings for a host of disorders-- poor circulation, nervous disorders, arthritis and rheumatism, hair and skin disorders, problems with digestion and elimination, female reproductive disorders, prostate disease, cataracts - even POSSESSION and schizophrenia. One of the most frequent recommendations concerned problems related to poor circulation. When the violet ray is applied, the resultant surge of blood to oxygen-starved tissues stimulates lymphatic and capillary circulation, clearing cellular toxins and strengthening body organs. Duration of treatment ranges from one to thirty minutes.

The violet ray appliance is usually a hand-held device with a variety of glass applicators, such as the comb-rake and the bulb, which can be inserted in the base and used on the part of the body being treated. When the machine is turned on, a violet-colored electrical charge can be seen. It emits warmth.

This high frequency appliance uses a sophisticated coil invented by the renowned scientist Nicoia Tesla. It acts in a manner similar to a spark coil in a car. Utilizing a transformer the voltage is increased dramatically as it moves through the resonating coil. The device's bulb contains a gas that ionizes and produces charged particles and that emanate from the surface. This combination of charged particles and high frequency produces a mild heating effect in the body. This heating of body tissue, called diathermy, increases the circulation, dilates superficial blood vessels, and promotes healing.

A Cayce reading for a man with poor circulation recommended that he use the violet ray over the lower limbs every evening: "In five to six weeks, we will find the body more active mentally and physically and better fitted for physical activities."

When recommended for someone with arthritis, it was said to relax the body, energize the nerves, and supply additional oxygen to cells and tissues. Generally the individual was advised to apply the bulb over the area where arthritic pain was felt, and along the spine.

The Violet Ray was recommended as a tonic for exhaustion and lethargy: This will give the 'pick up' or the stimulation that is needed for what might be called the recharging of the centers along the cerebrospinal system. To do this will prevent the central nervous system as to make for better coordination between the sympathetic and cerebrospinal nervous system. This would strengthen and revitalize the entire body, giving incentives to the nerve centers to become rejuvenated again.

According to Dr. McGarey, the violet ray was very common in the early 19OOs--and easily obtained from electrical and drug-supply houses nationwide - but today, since the rise in pharmaceutical medicine, it is far less common.

Dr. McGarey says, "it was once a favorite among osteopathic physicians to control infection without the use of antibiotics. Interestingly enough, scientists are only now beginning to recognize the profound power of light introduced into tissues to dissipate infection."

In fact, the medical science has confirmed that the human body is a composite of electromagnetic vibrations. The characteristics of this electromagnetic flow within the body-today measured by sophisticated laboratory instruments-were foretold in great detail by Cayce, long before such technology existed.

This vibration might be visualized as an electromagnetic cloak that shields us from head to toe. Disturbances in this force field [often caused by Inorganic entities] signal the beginnings of physical weakness and disease. Cayce noted in one reading that when the electrical force in an organ becomes weak in its ability to reproduce the balance necessary for the support of the physical body, that portion becomes deficient.

Conversely, if the electrical forces in the body are balanced, the body chemistry, the organs, tissues, bones, and nerves remain in a state of health. As a result, electricity was often recommended by the readings as an important therapeutic method for stimulating the body to heal. Dr. McGarey theorizes that "the primary healing effect of the violet ray is accomplished through it's balancing and rejuvenating effect in the body's electromagnetic shield."

Due to its ability to heal skin tissue, skin specialists across the county still use the violet ray on clients with acne. Beauticians use it to increase the circulation in the scalp and stimulate hair growth in clients with "falling hair" or baldness.

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Interesting that it mentions possession and mental illnesses where people hear voices... I will have to try and find out more information on why this claim is made and by whom (Edgar Cayce by the looks of it) and if there is any record of these being used in this way.

[McArthur]

Also very interesting, the Lakhovsky Multi-Wave Oscillator (MWO) mentioned upthread that apparently worked as a kind of ghost-buster machine, you can get hand-held ones that attach to a Violet Ray machine, here:

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/violet-ray.htm (Almost $900.... a tad expensive for that kit imo! Especially as they are more or less the same as the $61 ones from Ukraine. I paid 95pounds sterling for my working vintage one in a case, about $140).

[Modest]

Have you tried a q-link? I think it is a simple orgonite generator pendant so I ordered an advanced one called Harmonic Protector from Carol Croft. I have chosen it because it's half the price of the q-link and it uses minerals. I will review it when I get it.
Keep up the info rolling McArthur!

[McArthur]

Have you tried a q-link? I think it is a simple orgonite generator pendant so I ordered an advanced one called Harmonic Protector from Carol Croft. I have chosen it because it's half the price of the q-link and it uses minerals. I will review it when I get it.

I have made some posts Here (http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?6561-The-Q-Link-Theory) on the Q-Link. Altho I still havent got around to making one. :roll: So much to do, so little time. :|


Keep up the info rolling McArthur!
Thanks for the encouragement, every little helps. :)

[McArthur]

The courier picked my violet ray up today so I should have it perhaps Friday, am looking forward to making tests. I thought I would make a short report back of the EM pulser I bought. It wasnt the one I was really after (no reply from the maker when I was trying to buy one) and is a lower power one with an oscillating current. Although I had some mild results I cant really say it was "Zapping" any negs to be honest. I had measured its output with the Trifield meter and I dont think its powerful enough for what I want. Most certainly it is nowhere near as powerful as an MRI scanner, for instance. Definitely no "Eurika" moments, anyway. :?

[DAN]

Hey McArthur glad to see your still at it :D

I was in a discussion somewhere else and these video's came up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Io6lop3mk
This is a three part series on sound vibration, but they also covered a little bit on magnets and a little vibration. This struck me as intresting, what if you were able to create a magnetic field and get it to vibrate? Would this cause some sort of prob for the neg. I know negs can somewhat tolerate magnets but if they can get away from them such as move to a differant spot they sure as heck will :)

Would a vibrating magnetic field do to a neg like what it does to the material in the vids?

[McArthur]

Hey McArthur glad to see your still at it :D

Hey Dan, well I try to live a normal life sometimes and take a break from all this stuff. But then I get whacked with more strong attacks that anger me and make me want to get back on the job of finding something to hurt the little B*********. :wink:


I was in a discussion somewhere else and these video's came up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Io6lop3mk
This is a three part series on sound vibration, but they also covered a little bit on magnets and a little vibration. This struck me as intresting, what if you were able to create a magnetic field and get it to vibrate? Would this cause some sort of prob for the neg. I know negs can somewhat tolerate magnets but if they can get away from them such as move to a differant spot they sure as heck will :)

I would like to know if an EM field can be vibrated as well, I think varying the frequencies of a pulsed field would be the same tho?


Would a vibrating magnetic field do to a neg like what it does to the material in the vids?
I wish I knew the answer to this question! 8)

My parcel did not arrive today :cry: so might have to wait til Monday for delivery now :roll:

[McArthur]

Violet Ray device has arrived and have been testing it on myself and some friends. Its a pretty cool little machine but will have to experiment over a few weeks to see what results we get. I did a few minutes on a wart/mole I have on my inner right thigh and it seems to have done something. Before, it was very soft, loose and squidgy but after treatment it has become hard and very round. I've taken photos that I will upload when I get chance, including a short movie of the VRM in action. WIll be interesting if this mole drops off as I have had it since I was small. I have a matching mole on my left inner thigh a bit higher up... will need to add a link to my posts about "vampire marks" later. Cant really comment on first impressions as I have been drinking and eating with friends beforehand so a little comfortably numb. :wink: :mrgreen:

edit: Ok here are the photos. First one is the main one I am experimenting on due to me having a "feeling" that it matches the one on my left upper inner thigh next to my groin (it is the same size, colour etc). This is a photo of after I used the VRM, forgot to take one beforehand, but if you can see it looks a bit puffed up and globular? It wasnt like that beforehand. This was after a 5 minute treatment.

For those who may want to add cautions I shall add a DISCLAIMER: Don't do this at home unless you know what you are doing. I am happy with any risks involved (if any) and neither myself or AD Forums shall be held responsible if you use one of these machines and get adverse results.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/sleeplesssolitude2/P11-05-09_1939.jpg

http://www.meridianinstitute.com/eaem/h ... lcont.html (http://www.meridianinstitute.com/eaem/halliwel/hallcont.html)

"WARTS AND MOLES – These disfigurements, no matter of how long standing, may be most successfully treated by the application of a spark through the fulguration electrode No. 20. The greatest care must be exercised that these sparks do not come in contact with the surrounding tissues. Permanent results may be expected, and the most disfiguring warts or moles removed without leaving a trace by these means. " (some claims at that site for the VRM to be taken with a pinch of salt I think?).

This is another one on my outside left thigh that I shall be working on with the VRM that is fairly flat against the skin compared to the others. I get nerve muscle spasms from negs close to this and have felt energy movement and infrequent pain around it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/sleeplesssolitude2/P11-05-09_1941.jpg

[McArthur]

WIll be interesting if this mole drops off as I have had it since I was small. I have a matching mole on my left inner thigh a bit higher up... will need to add a link to my posts about "vampire marks" later.

The link to that thread is HERE (http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?3616-Vampire-marks-come-in-twos). I have quite a collection of these "vampire marks" where the moles appear to be a matching pair. I'll add some more to that thread soon.

[McArthur]

I see that someone else is also testing the violet ray machine from Roberts blog at this link: http://tinyurl.com/69h7n2v

And also an article on his site that can be read here: http://tinyurl.com/5ttodk7 about the running water causing static and em fields that he first learned from my posts in this lengthy thread, and thanked me for alerting him to it in one of his posts here. Well even if my years of research is not mentioned in these articles by Robert, at least it means others are trying out the ideas I have posted here in the past. I just hope we can finally find something that is effective and easy to use.

[McArthur]

I haven't been keeping up to date with this thread for a while due to problems where I am ,no electric in my apartment (long story), so difficult to be on the Internet as much. That will change very soon hopefully, (at least according to my Spanish solicitor who is dealing with the changing of the deeds into my name, for which I need a contract with the electric supplier ).

I will mention here though, some other research that others may want to try. First I suggest you read the book called "Thirty Years Among the Dead" by C A Wickland, which is available as a free pdf if you Google it as it is now out of copyright, and free to legally download. Wickland used a combination of a Wimhurst Machine that generates static electric directly (or indirectly, not sure,so don't try it until you know what you are doing!) onto the patient to remove the entity, and his wife, who was a medium, then allowed the spirit to talk through her and Wickland then pursuaded the spirit into going to the Light.

Another person who used the same machine (whose book I have yet to read) was the British Psychiatrist, Arthur Guirdham, "The Psychic Dimensions of Mental Health".

More later when time (and laptop battery power) permits.

[mick]

Part related, the use of magnetic fields to treat depression.


"Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) does not require anti-depressants, and patients only need to relax in a chair while magnetic pulses are sent to key neurons in the brain.

Sonja Tanner, who is currently using TMS to treat her depression, has battled it for 25 years.

"It's been the battle of my life," Tanner said.

Tanner has been on and off medication, but she recently turned to the Botkiss Center for TMS Therapy in Del Mar. She receives treatment by sitting in a chair, five days a week for 40 minutes, while pulses stimulate the parts of her brain that controls mood.

In about three weeks, she said she saw dramatic changes.

"My focus was better, my memory was better, my anxiety was better," Tanner said.

Dr. Philip Botkiss understands why some who have never heard of this may be skeptical.

"Anything that's new and different is going to be scrutinized in the psychiatric community and even by patients," Botkiss said.

Tanner admitted she did not believe it would work either.

"I was the biggest skeptic, I really was … I have 25 years of non-effective treatment," Tanner said.

The treatment has been approved by the FDA, and the American Psychiatric Association recently included TMS in its depression treatment guidelines.

"It's still relatively new so I think the challenge will be to find where it fits in our entire set of tools," said Dr. Catherine Moore, a longtime psychiatrist and past president of the San Diego Psychiatric Society.

Another big challenge of this treatment is the cost, as TMS therapy costs about $10,000 and most insurance companies do not cover it.

Tanner, however, said it is worth it.

"TMS has been a lifesaver for me," Tanner said."

http://www.10news.com/news/29740645/detail.html

[McArthur]

Thanks for the news story Mick, I was wondering whether this had passed FDA requirements yet or not.

On a different subject I asked Robert a question recently in "Ask Robert" Here (http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?12965-Are-Negs-really-bound-to-the-earth-as-you-say) that seems related to this thread. Because that thread is closed for further comment or questions I'll do so here. Robert says (amongst other things) :

"They can come 'down' on a lightening strike, and if exposed to strong electrical earthing are 'demanifested' back into the planet. They then move through the planet's electrical fields and back out through the pole into the stratosphere."

The research I have written in this thread and also some I have not been able to add yet leads me in a different direction to this hypothesis. Both Robert and myself agree that somehow (not sure yet) EM fields such as that given off by running water* can repel negs. But lightning gives off a HUGE amount of EM field at every strike, a thousand times more than running water, so I can't see how they would be able to even go near it, let alone 'come down' on it.

I will go out on a limb here also and share my hypothesis of what causes ball lightning. Perhaps it is an Orb (spirit manifesting in the real time zone), giving off an EM field that makes it a sort of lightning conductor. The lightning hits the orb-entity, lighting it up temporarily to normal sight. This might explain why some "ball lightning' has been witnessed to enter homes b4 disappearing... it is a spirit trying to shelter inside a building from lightning strikes.

*Walking over running water or through a stream was an old cure against a witches curse centuries ago and was also mentioned in "Psyschic Self Defense" by Dion Fortune (also out of copyright and freely downloadable). So similar to the idea that garlic keeps vampires away there may be some truth to the old housewives tales.

[mick]

"They can come 'down' on a lightening strike, and if exposed to strong electrical earthing are 'demanifested' back into the planet. They then move through the planet's electrical fields and back out through the pole into the stratosphere."

The research I have written in this thread and also some I have not been able to add yet leads me in a different direction to this hypothesis. Both Robert and myself agree that somehow (not sure yet) EM fields such as that given off by running water* can repel negs. But lightning gives off a HUGE amount of EM field at every strike, a thousand times more than running water, so I can't see how they would be able to even go near it, let alone 'come down' on it.

I tend to different views in respect of the infrastructure that is in play for some entities. That EM has a role is likely, it is of course one of the fundamental forces. But I also keep in mind that scientific sensing wise much of what might be sensed by those aware to it goes undetected by electrical sensing devices. There are, of course, examples of some phenomena but does not appear to be a generally measurable state of play. What we do view with respect to some of the irritating types is how they utilise what we refer to as etheric, the material perhaps closest to the physical. Earth centric wise it largely mirrors the physical shape sometimes billowing a little. Entities will mould this to support their activities and perhaps more importantly give themselves anchorage. This utilisation can also include energy deposits and connections through which they might move quickly. Also observe such as being utilised by some magician types, the marshalling of energy and connectivity.

In some respects that description has some synergy with how some might describe electrical charge and conduction. But feel that that road is tricky, relative to ones position the surrounding charge may be neutral as electricity seeks that state until the relative potentials match but then conditions change maybe due to wider area events new potentials are rising and falling all the time and the rebalancing act starts again. Not perhaps a very stable platform. One can also speculate on how the Earth's magnetic field might play a role here. One observation is how churches that are often aligned compass wise can have some stonking ley line type activity.

What we do note from our viewpoint is that these etheric structures can be somewhat easily disturbed and tend to link this to how running water might work in this respect. It is probably quite readily accepted that there are elements of grooming by some entities, the establishment of points of connection sometimes over time, a building of a framework which facilitates their activities. Slapping those structures about will disturb and result in a period of time being required to re-establish the setup. Sometimes if we have been having a wider clear out somewhere, entities that have embedded themselves can be viewed drifting off once the fabric of structures is disturbed and often will then wink out into what I view as their natural space. So with moving (physical) matter, could be working by interacting with the etheric structures that the entity is dependent on. Wonder if having hanging mobiles in a room would also do stuff.

WRT an electrical element, that role as part of flowing water could maybe be explored by building some device to charge and discharge with maybe some variability, in order to simulate the electrical effect presumed. Would not have to be very strong if the water example is valid.


I will go out on a limb here also and share my hypothesis of what causes ball lightning. Perhaps it is an Orb (spirit manifesting in the real time zone), giving off an EM field that makes it a sort of lightning conductor. The lightning hits the orb-entity, lighting it up temporarily to normal sight. This might explain why some "ball lightning' has been witnessed to enter homes b4 disappearing... it is a spirit trying to shelter inside a building from lightning strikes.

You may have seen in the UFO section where the Djinn as culprits got an airing, the term Deceivers was used and this linked to some experiences of my own. I have copied the relevant part here, this lot viewed as having an orb arrangement in which they sit while on the move. For me, it again raises a question of why, some entities just go places while others need a mechanism. There may be an electrical component here, as well as suggesting maybe it is another example that some entities need vehicles of some form to operate in our spaces.

"We came across this term about twenty years ago when we were observing astrally some activities. In one instance we watched a figure in an orb moving towards a house where it turned out were some people organising a seance, the figure we were watching shifted into the form of a North American Indian and then made contact through the seance.

We checked with some non physical types that we were working with at the time and they called them DDs, this turned out to be short for double deceivers, a term arising from how they will play all sides."

http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?13022-The-Deceivers

One of the Djinn examples given in the thread involved a dialogue by someone with a Djinn where it stated how it had travelled to the location via someone making a journey and then holed up in a location associated with spiritual/mystical activities. Could read into that it being another example of a dependence of some entities on local material, energy et al for presence and maybe survival.

Enough rambling, :)

[mick]

Have come across this weather related study that examines a correlation with lightning activities in the tropics and how this affects the high altitude electrical conditions of higher latitudes and the local weather in the shape of cloud formation. Mention it here as earlier in this thread it was outlined how some entities might move from ground locations through the electrical charge of lightning and then flow towards the Poles on the current flow. This study draws attention to such a stimulus of current flows as a result of lightning, thought that it might interest as it highlights the existence of such current flows and the existence of a complex global electrical network.

"Inferring convective responses to El Niño with atmospheric electricity measurements at Shetland

R G Harrison1, M Joshi2 and K Pascoe1


1 Department of Meteorology, University of Reading, Earley Gate, PO Box 243, RG6 6BB, UK
2 NCAS Climate, University of Reading, Earley Gate, PO Box 243, RG6 6BB, UK

Received 22 September 2011
Accepted 1 December 2011
Published 22 December 2011

Abstract. Pacific ocean temperature anomalies associated with the El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) modulate atmospheric convection and hence thunderstorm electrification. The generated current flows globally via the atmospheric electric circuit, which can be monitored anywhere on Earth. Atmospheric electricity measurements made at Shetland (in Scotland) display a mean global circuit response to ENSO that is characterized by strengthening during 'El Niño' conditions, and weakening during 'La Niña' conditions. Examining the hourly varying response indicates that a potential gradient (PG) increase around noon UT is likely to be associated with a change in atmospheric convection and resultant lightning activity over equatorial Africa and Eastern Asia. A secondary increase in PG just after midnight UT can be attributed to more shower clouds in the central Pacific ocean during an 'El Niño'."

http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/6/4/044028/fulltext/

[Geoff_C]

I will mention here though, some other research that others may want to try. First I suggest you read the book called "Thirty Years Among the Dead" by C A Wickland, which is available as a free pdf if you Google it as it is now out of copyright, and free to legally download. Wickland used a combination of a Wimhurst Machine that generates static electric directly (or indirectly, not sure,so don't try it until you know what you are doing!) onto the patient to remove the entity, and his wife, who was a medium, then allowed the spirit to talk through her and Wickland then pursuaded the spirit into going to the Light.

I have long wondered exactly what Wickland used, and have not managed to find out. Are you sure that it was a "Wimhurst machine"? I assume you found a reference somewhere for that?

I read the whole of this thread, to see if anyone would pick up on this. Wickland removed negs all the time, using electrostatic energy. So they definitely move, when subjected to electrostatic charge, suggesting that many of the now considered archaic "old" electric therapy may well have removed negs from psychiatric patients. But, and here is the problem with this whole thread. It just dislodges the neg, leaving it to find another host, or wait a while, and come right back.

There seems to me to be only one successful approach, and that was pioneered by Dr. Irene Wickland, and one chapter from her book is listed here on this site as a sticky. I will link to the original: http://new-birth.net/misc/misc8.htm

which is an extract I made from her book. It frustrates me no end that her book is very hard to buy. The "trustees" of her "foundation" have boxes of new books, but they do not provide an online purchase option, they require a fax to a post box that they clear every few weeks. I have even got a full pdf of this book, and I offered it to them, but they did not accept. I would list it on my own web site, but its still subject to copyright, although I have to say they don't deserve that protection.

In short, its not that hard to talk to negs, and get them to leave peacefully. That way they don't bother anyone else.

As a passing comment, unless you change your own vibration level, you will again be likely to have another neg take up residence. This change is not something that can happen overnight. But with effort, it can happen in a few years, and you will never be bothered again. In short it is the Law of Attraction that causes a neg to come to you. The same Law that would cause a "Jesus" or a Buddha" to find you attractive, if you vibrated at their level. So its not something "unfair". In fact its the harmony of the universe at work.

take care,
Geoff

[McArthur]

I have long wondered exactly what Wickland used, and have not managed to find out. Are you sure that it was a "Wimhurst machine"? I assume you found a reference somewhere for that?

Hi Geoff, I didn´t recieve an email alerting me to your response here (maybe due to the move around of the forums I think), so my reply is a little tardy.

Yes there are lots of references to it, I think I may have found out from one of the books I will mention below. But you can find some interesting comments by doing a google search exactly as I write below (inc. quotion marks) :

carl wickland "Wimhurst machine"



I read the whole of this thread,

Grin. How long did it take you?


to see if anyone would pick up on this. Wickland removed negs all the time, using electrostatic energy. So they definitely move, when subjected to electrostatic charge, suggesting that many of the now considered archaic "old" electric therapy may well have removed negs from psychiatric patients. But, and here is the problem with this whole thread. It just dislodges the neg, leaving it to find another host, or wait a while, and come right back.

Yes, there is that problem, but the idea of PSD is that you use more than one technique and as RB gas said, this also includes lifestyle changes that will invrease your natural resistence to interference by negs, and stop them returning.

The problem is that these changes and spiritual practices don´t necessarily automatically get rid of a neg that is already entrenched within a person. Protecting oneself from outside interference is a lot easier than removing one (or more) that is already inside you.

I agree to a certain extent about it being better to have the entity in question go to the "Light" so that it won´t bother anyone else, if it is possible to do so. These types would tend to be ex-humans that either don´t realize their situation, or have become vampiric on those who are still incarnate for various reasons (i.e. too attached to eartly pleasures, previously an addict, wanting to "help" a family member, etc.).

Unfortunately this will not be the case in a lot of situations. Many of the entities that we are talking about here are definitely not human, although they can certainly be very good at imitating one. These beings have had a very long time to learn quite a lot about human psychology, they will also have access to your thoughts (even when they are not even inside you), and through centuries of observation they can, and do, often quite easily outwit most of us "puny little humans".

There is also the problem of where their natural place of residence actually is, or should be. Is it this "Light" that Exorcists tell them? It may well not be if they are non-human. There are MANY varieties of Inorganic Beings (as Don Juan called them in Carlos Castaneda´s books). Do a google search as below, you may find it interesting:

carlos castaneda flyers "active side of infinity"

Also, This Article (http://www.consciencia.org/castaneda/castaneda-matrix.html) I found quite interesting as well.

Some entities may be Alien, or they could be a human made thoughtform, servitor or egregore that actually can´t go to the "Light" because it has no higher part to it like we humans. They are made from Astral stuff, the same way you can create a sword in your hand whilst lucid dreaming or astral projecting. The difference being that they have gained a modicum of intelligence and have learned how to keep themselves alive on the Astral.

Thoughtforms eventually fade and break back down to basic Astral energy over time, but if a thoughtform or servitor that has been created by a human Occultist has enough intelligence it can end up turning vampiric. Dion Fortune briefly mentions it in her book "Psychic Self-Defense" (free pdfs are online as it´s out of copyright) and also you can read about the explorer Alexandra David-Néel, the first western female to visit Tibet, who had a bad experience creating a thoughtform whilst there.

This Link (http://www.energyenhancement.org/AlexandraNeelBlockages.htm) tells the basics of her story, or do a search of her name and the words "thoughtform or "tulpa". More information can be found by doing the following search:

franz bardon thoughtform

Dion Fortune also briefly mentions in her book that there are so-called Black Magicians (human variety) who know how to avoid what is called "The Second Death", which is basically the same as "going to the Light". One´s lower human personality is a temporary thing used by ones Real/Higher Self for the purposes of experiencing incarnation on Earth.

Oops, internet cafe closing, will finish my reply tomorrow.

[sono2]

Just to quickly add my 2c worth - I have had a couple of MRI sessions (to discover the cause of sudden attacks of paralysis, which were finally diagnosed as hemiplegic migraine attacks) & I must say that I felt absolutely dreadful afterwards; disoriented, nauseous; shaky - I had to really concentrate to avoid leaving the body during the session, too. I have never heard such a noise, either - I have very sensitive hearing & despite earplug & earphones I really did not enjoy the experiences. So I am not convinced of the validity of MRI for disloging negs. . .

[McArthur]

Geoff I forgot about the rest of your post. Also I wanted to add that Carl Wickland is mentioned in a book I have called "Exorcism Past and Present" by Martin Ebon. In it Ebon briefly mentions an article written by Wickland in 1935 (out of copyright mods) called "Static Electricity in Therapeutics" where he writes:

"The static machine which I use, constructed by myself under the direction of intelligent spiritual forces, is made according to the Wimhurst pattern and contains fourteen thirty-inch diameter glass disks, all active, giving a powerful current."

The machine was about the size of a bookcase reaching two thirds to the ceiling of a room and appears to have communicated a sparkling-tingling effect to the possessed person, with the current somehow being transfered along the persons spine and head (doesn´t say what was used to apply the cirrent to the persons skin).

A more modern version of this static electric generator is a van der Graff machine.





There seems to me to be only one successful approach, and that was pioneered by Dr. Irene Wickland, and one chapter from her book is listed here on this site as a sticky.
See my previous post regarding the different type of negs that won´t be able to be sent to the Light. Irene Hickman (not Wickland as you typed) actually learned this process from Edith Fiore ("The Unquiet Dead: A Psychologist Treats Spirit Possession"), whom she saw at a seminar in Brazil, and William J. Baldwin ("Healing Lost Souls: Releasing Unwanted Spirits from Your Body"). I have both those books and definitely recommend them, especially the Bladwin one (altho I´m not into the past life stuff in it).

Hickman´s book appears to be almost a copy, verbatim, of some of the cases mentioned in the 2 books I just referenced.

Out of time, will continue later.

[Summerlander]

For goodness sakes is this thread still going. Negs or whatever you call them is utter tripe. I'm sorry folks, but it is a load of rubbish.

[CFTraveler]

For goodness sakes is this thread still going. Negs or whatever you call them is utter tripe. I'm sorry folks, but it is a load of rubbish.
Please refrain from insulting others' points of view. This is completely unnecessary. One thing is to declare that you don't believe something, another is to declare others' experiences/beliefs 'utter tripe'.
Consider this your first warning.

[Summerlander]

It's not that I'm insulting anyone... don't get me wrong. I just think this notion of demons is utter tripe. In no way do I doubt that others have experienced what they say they have experienced. I have experienced it myself. Do I think it is real? No. Why? Because, as I gained more experience and familiarised myself with the nature of the phase state, I realised that so-called demons are not real at all and certainly not "negative" when they present the opportunity of self-integration via facing your fears and what you dislike. They are elements of the psyche that we should embrace and address. This is a whole other approach besides the non-productive self-defence... against what?

[CFTraveler]

I was very clear about what was insulting about your post. The notion or belief about demons may be tripe to you, but not to those who are posting in these forums. There is a vast difference between saying "I don't believe in demons" and "believing in demons is stupid". This should be obvious to you, and please don't argue about this- you are smarter than that.

You are in a section dedicated to dealing against negative entities. If your focus is on protection through denial, this is perfectly acceptable- only in this subforum. If you don't accept the premise of entities in the first place, you shouldn't be reading or posting in either the PSD or PSNA forums in the first place- it's that simple.

[ButterflyWoman]

Just FYI: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_faq#faq_boardrules

Particularly: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/faq.php?faq=boardrules#faq_respectfulrules

Those (and other board related guidelines and information) are available by clicking the FAQ link at the top of the forum.

[Summerlander]

There is also the difference between respecting people's beliefs and then possessing the certainty about something and trying to save others from their ignorance. Oh well, I'll let other members here gain more experience and come to the realisation of truth.

By the way, I don't know where you got the phrase: "believing in demons is stupid"

The trouble with forums like these is that administrators/mods tend to interpret members posts their own way when they lack understanding and then jump to assumptions. Demons don't exist. Period.

[CFTraveler]

possessing the certainty about something and trying to save others from their ignorance. I'm not why you keep belaboring the point- saying that someone else's beliefs is tripe is not far from saying that their beliefs are stupid, and you keep coming back to tell others they are wrong.

Oh well, I'll let other members here gain more experience and come to the realisation of truth. I wish you would have done it in the first place.
Goodbye.

[ButterflyWoman]

By the way, I don't know where you got the phrase: "believing in demons is stupid"
Let's follow the logic (and this is straight out of Logic and Reasoning 101): You believe in demons. Belief in demons is crap (rubbish, tripe, nonsense, bullsh!t). Therefore, your beliefs are crap (rubbish, tripe, nonsense, bullsh!t).

Unless we assume (quite ridiculously) that "your beliefs are crap" is somehow NOT equal to "your beliefs are stupid", I think it's obvious how "believing in demons is stupid" is deduced.


The trouble with forums like these is that administrators/mods tend to interpret members posts their own way when they lack understanding and then jump to assumptions.
Yeah, that's totally it. :roll:

And by the way, you shouldn't assume that all the administrators/mods necessarily believe in demons or possession or UFOs or ghosts or magick or tarot card readings or any other thing that people post on these boards. That's a completely ignorant assumption.

[McArthur]

Hi folks, I have tons more research to share in this thread but for now I'll add what I am doing next. I have just ordered item: PSHK10 from this website

http://www.amazing1.com/shocking_electric_modules.htm

If you have read the thread you'll see where DAN suggests using some form of electric fence technology and I was reading that amazing1 website (and they have tons of great stuff!) seeing which I could afford right now. They have magnetic pulsers (and cheap plans to make your own) but I don't have the cash right now. So anyway I have been noticing increased neg activity from neighbours (banging noises) while laying in bed and not much energy body parasite activity while laying in bed. When I get up and move to the living room (to get away from the banging noises), I start getting increased activity in my feet.

Which has led me to wonder what about the bed is perhaps giving me some mild protection? Well, I do have some wire cage mesh underneath the mattress from when I had started building a faraday cage around my bed (and then, for some reason.. abandoned), plus of course the metal coils inside the mattress also. I had thought of attaching a grounding cable to the coils inside the mattress and not got around to that either yet. But now I have what I think may be a better idea, which was by DAN.

The electric shock module I have just purchased is the pulsed model and produces 20,000 volts. I am going to make a hole in the underside of my mattress and attach it to the metal springs inside and report back on any findings. I'm not going to use it while sleeping as I am unsure of any fire hazard at the moment, so be careful.

I've also ordered an ignition coil (ebay item 120757610535) to make a spark gap transmitter, as described here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark-gap_transmitter

It is illegal to make in some countries because it can cause (depending on the amount of power put into it...) interference in TV and phone and radio signals etc. But it's similar to those Lakhovsky Multiwave Healing Machines someone mentioned upthread that are available at the following link (great website by the way... they are even researching ghost busting stuff!)

http://www.amazing1.com/alternative_health.htm#LAKMWO1

DAN if you read this can you please PM me your email address as I just tried to PM you 3 times and it says I have no sent messages.

73

Mark

[CFTraveler]

Twenty thousand volts? That sounds dangerous. Please be careful, and don't have it on while you're on the bed. (I know you said you wouldn't, but I had to say it anyway.)

[McArthur]

Hi CFT, good to see you're still working here and being helpful and careful :) you can read the website where it states that it is safe for humans... if you touch the live wire you may get a nasty shock but not enough to cause serious harm or kill you. Voltage is high but it is high Ampage one has to be careful about with electricity. I certainly will be having it on while on the bed, I just won't be sleeping with it on until I have checked any fire risk, which I think is probably not too much to worry about anyway. I'm gonna ask the maker of it about what I plan to do (physics expert) and his expert opinion on any potential fire risk, right now. :)

[dreaming90]

Personally I find that sending a wave of unconditional love or even cracking a joke is more than enough to dispel negs. Fear is the only tool they have-- if you don't fear them, they are powerless.

And I will note that the vast majority of "negs" I have dealt with turned out to be major reality fluctuations, not negs at all. Sure, once in a while I run into an unpleasant entity, but otherwise it seems that my own mind is my biggest enemy.

[McArthur]

Personally I find that sending a wave of unconditional love or even cracking a joke is more than enough to dispel negs. Fear is the only tool they have-- if you don't fear them, they are powerless.

And I will note that the vast majority of "negs" I have dealt with turned out to be major reality fluctuations, not negs at all. Sure, once in a while I run into an unpleasant entity, but otherwise it seems that my own mind is my biggest enemy.

Great advice, thanks.

[McArthur]

Check all of your birth marks for invisible lines going into them by pinching your thumb and forefinger abover one and pulling on what is invisible to you and see if you can feel anything.

All primary cancer tumors can be checked in the same way. They feel like spider web thin invisible (even to astral sight) lines into the physical-etheric body.

I´m living in Benalmadena Costa southern Spain... if you decide to project here then be VERY prepared as there are many problems in certain areas of the planet.

command lines of the Alien tech that has landed on various areas of the planet are:

open sesame (then number):

24, 25, 27, 31 73 99 (ninety nine) 112 173 174 (triple numbers are pronounced in 2 ways, 324 is either "open sesame three twenty four or three two four") 327 . Other numbers also but if you´re in an Alien invasion area (usually about 24.4 miles diameter) be careful of trying the different commands of their ETHERIC manufactured world they land on planets.

Over 53 planets affected and over 1000 astral realms affected...


"line of force OFF!" (off said in commanding voice works).

Mirrored singlasses are sort of protective as the entities sit in minds and look out of the eyes, I had one entity say they couldnt see while I was wearing mirrored sunglasses.

IONIZERS are VERY important as I have had entities PLEADING with me to turn mine off as they "didn´t like it". Get and IONIZER FOR YOUR HOME.

FARADAY CAGES WORK! Had contact with human etheric and conversed and he (and others) said they couldnt get in a transit van, cars or similar. FARADAY CAGE around your bed will reduce attack from etheric and astral types. Check Robert Monroe book (cant remember title, not "Far Journeys") he did experiment with a faraday cage around his bed and tried to Astral Project and couldn´t get out of the faraday cage.

Aliens have kidnapped beings from other planets and dragged them here and put what they call "Skin coverings" around them making them look demonic to astral sight. The command line that works for me is "ALL SKIN SUITS OFF!"

Will add more later.

[McArthur]

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