Meditating for OBE

[Matt]

Its hard for me to explain. I feel very relaxed and in control at that point. I guess what im trying to say is, am I supposed to think of exiting my body at that point? Do I just wait? Or do I do something after that? I just dont know what to do since ive had no conscious success. If I could just add another step to getting out that would be great cause ive started ground up and gotten this far...

So you're reaching a certainly level of relaxation and have some imagery you can see, and you want to know how to turn that into an OBE?

There are a couple things that work for me. Keeping your eyes very very still, slowly tensing your muscles to about 10% and then relaxing them to induce deeper paralysis, and making whatever imagery you have spin to cause it to be more vivid all help to get over that last hump.

Muscle tense/relax for paralysis:
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... jsp?t=3911 (http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=3911)
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... r-06-04-05 (http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=newsletter-06-04-05)

Still eyes:
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... r-04-08-05 (http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=newsletter-04-08-05)

Object spinning, Two Forces exit method:
http://www.saltcube.com/?t=object-spinning

Also, here's a way to complete partial exits:
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... jsp?t=3586 (http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=3586)

Usually the way I do the last bit of an exit is to slide out by magnifying the feeling of gravity:
http://saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-fo ... vity-press (http://saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=gravity-press)

Here's a page that kind of sums up some of the various ways of exiting:
http://saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-fo ... exit-paths (http://saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=exit-paths)


Oh and another thing what would anyone suggest about maintaining lucidity cause i will be as lucid as possible and completely in control and then bam im waking up. I just dont understand why I wake up for no reason. Im calm collected and ready for phasing or whatever I can do from that point but I feel something is holding me back.

I have a problem with OBEs being too short as well. I've found that continually deep breathing while out helps to prolong it, but it's not a perfect method.

If anyone else has ideas for lengthening OBEs I also would be really interested to hear them.

[micko]

This thread is a bit old but I thought Id put my 2c worth in...
I am by no means an expert at meditation (only on day 19 :p ) but I have found a good way to eliminate any word thoughts coming into mind.
While meditating I would concentrate on my breath but found I had the annoying habit of mentally saying "in.. out" as I breathed.
After a few more sessions I refined it so that when I sensed a thought come into mind it would just be "...." and I would actually visualise the dots in my head. This helped prevent more chatter, but I was still thinking about the dots!!
The last meditation session I had I progressed a bit further by replacing the dots with sort of a black screen. So any thought would be represented as a black screen on an black background in my mind (if that makes any sense). I know its not prefect but it really feels like I have made progress to stop the chatter!
Give it a try and see what you think (or dont think :D).

[CFTraveler]

I like this topic. This is something I have had such a hard time with making an opinion on. I have thought that in the past that if you just let your mind wander just try and catch the moment before you fall asleep and maintain awareness. That had some success but little. Ive tried silencing it by controling my thoughts.. I had the same success as the method before. I have a new opinion but would like some feedback on it and what you guys think. I believe that if you use breathing exercises such as counting in and counting out and just focusing on this until the counting is automatic and you can think of other things at the same time you have completed step one. After that is continuing the breaths and then controlling your thoughts and where your mind goes. I am a firm believer that a positive though creates positive energy around you and can help. So I tell myself I believe and that im am happy and in control. I think of how happy I would be to willfully complete the task. After I have felt that I am happy and full of positive thoughts and energy I focus on an image, ussually energy around my body in all colors forming and growing and beautiful. I try and maintain that image and add things to it while still breathing and thinking controlled positive thoughts.. By now I am breathing perfect and seeing a wonderful visualization with positive thought and happiness flowing through me. I can only wait. Now the tricky part is where to go from there..... Ive fallen asleep and have had very lucid dreams and a interestesting experience that is different from dreaming. Im sorry for the long post but I like to go into details on my thoughts so you can feel everything that I am going through to better understand me. Please provide any comments or helpful suggestions. Thanks

I believe all the techniques in the above posts are good ones and should give you results.
I recommend that you do NEW on a daily basis,
and remember to try to recognize exit sensations so you know when to exit.
Happy Travels!

[Matthew]

Kiefer,
You can practice making your mind clear anytime. I used to just do it during meditation twice a day. But then I spent the remaining fifteen hours of my awake time just mentally stumbling around. Now, whenever I am alone and I don't need to think "verbally," I practice clearing my mind. A very good example: my car is now an official "no-thought" zone. When I drive, I keep my mind blank and my attention focused on the road. I'm sure it's made me a better driver :wink:
-Matthew