Cosmic alchemy

[Antares]

Anyone heard this term, or know anything about this term?

Recenly I was given it. Not sure what it means. I'll attempt to find out more about it...

[olyris]

On board your "mothership" are the higher s'elves of every soul you do love. In a miraculous way, you are their life - love that and you get a golden paradigm... just like in ordinary alchemy. :)

[Antares]

Ok today's morning quick, but insightful glimpse of view on the things provided me with better understanding of what it is...

So cosmic alchemy has little to do with the "mundane" alchemy. The latter is personal, the former basically impersonal.

Alchemy explaining

When you just live your life, relying on your internal processes, basically on your DNA, you're unconscious. The processes inside, like digesting, blood circulation, energy flow and so on, work without your conscious influence. This is how animals live.

The human being is different in this that he or she may decide to train the consciousness of all those processes. With this consciousness the conscious influence on them follows. This is what is called alchemy.

Alchemy is about the principles essential to energy workings which in turn leads to less and less relying on "nature" (DNA essentially), and more and more on your own consciousness. This is how you feel you become more yang, and less yin. The feeling of your entire energy system, and your body, your body's frequencies and so on, changes with this process.

Alchemy is therefore a responsibility. You become responsible for how your energies and your body works...

I guess this is why most of people cannot afford it. This process transforms not only your body (rejuvenating it), not only your energy (increasing the frequencies), but also transforms your psyche and affect the workings of your mind.

Now, to the cosmic alchemy

Imagine a man in a maze. He doesn't know how to get out of it. He sees only walls, and nothing more. The maze is big enough so that it was very difficult to find a way. So he tries to use some intellectual tricks (like keeping only the left side of the corridors) in order to finally get out.

This is how normal human being works: he uses he's reasoning based on a very limited information (basically coming from his physical senses) in order to achieve what he wants, or he thinks he wants.

Is there a better way? Yeah. To see the whole maze from the above. But then you need to exceed your physical body limitations. In order to achieve this higher state you need to get into the process of transcending your mind... and transforming your energy, and in turn your physical body. Hence alchemy.

Is there even a better way? Well... When you asked a question: "what actually forms this maze", you will realize that everything in the end goes down to the concepts (thoughts, the ancient people were saying). But then this question assumes impresonalized context. This is where cosmic alchemy gets into place.

It's not even astral. Cosmic alchemy transforms the whole context.

[olyris]

The intrinsic quality of a maze is its difficulty. A maze is bigger that is more difficult. A man's measure of difficulty is his ego. Hence, the more of a man you are the harder it is to find your way home.

Children are civil because of this parable.

[Antares]

A man's measure of difficulty is his ego.
Difficulty lays in perception.

Trancending yourself (your mind) results in new ways, new perception, new solutions. Then the concept of difficulty disappears: https://youtu.be/E3-CpzZJl8w?t=18

[olyris]

To turn into an eagle not stay so steadfast in one/another's manhood.

[Antares]

To turn into an eagle not stay so steadfast in one/another's manhood.
Where the analogy or symbolism of an eagle comes from? Why to turn into one?

[olyris]

The eagle represents metaphysically the full extent of the law to allow itself to think and feel everything, everywhere, every time. So no to turn into a bird quite so much as to see one's limitless mind as itself.

[Antares]

The eagle represents metaphysically the full extent of the law to allow itself to think and feel everything, everywhere, every time. So no to turn into a bird quite so much as to see one's limitless mind as itself.
This reminds me the Carlos Castaneda teachings, or shamans in general. Seems like it's the way to start exceeding the maze itself to realize that one isn't limited to going through this maze. So, becoming impersonal is not an easy task. But combining personal and impersonal, or inner alchemy and cosmic alchemy, that's even more interesting. I guess this is then the natural state of feeling / sensing every-(anything).

The state of void - exceeding one's mental activity - could lead there. Then you benefit personally from "travelling" into the impersonal-every-realm, and incorporating cosmic alchemical practice into yourself. I guess this is what ancient Egyptian mages-alchemists were involved with.
Instead of relying on the processes, you go through them deeply, identifying and understanding their essentials, This way you start to control them with your consciousness, i.e. you abandon your animal-part to give precedence of the spirit-part (as human being is regarded to be a combination of both). Like understanding the life processes, and thus modifying them according to you will. By stopping relying on them, you either succeed by being totally conscious and responsible, or learn how alchemy is a dangerous two-sided tool, leading to the disturbance of energy and spectacular failure... like disturbing your life processes instead of making them work better.

The research is further in progress... Anticipating exciting benefits from being in control of those processes.

[olyris]

If the Philosopher's Stone is thinking for yourself, the Elixir of Life is feeling the way you do. It could be found that the intellectual way with alchemy is only part of the initiatory phase... and not the real deal. Awesome!

[Antares]

I think there are a number of alchemies, not just one. And I think that the highest hierarchies of ancient Egypt, and other high past civilizations, were aware of that. The traces of this we can find by looking at their grand teachings and knowledge.

Alchemy is not just a "tool" for metals transmutation or your psyche transformation.

Each variant or level or alchemy deals with the state of a current level (like physical) with the usage of the principles as understood on the higher level. In this, it really resembles magic.

[olyris]

Each variant or level or alchemy deals with the state of a current level (like physical) with the usage of the principles as understood on the higher level. In this, it really resembles magic.
I suppose to say that "magic resonates with techonology" is to say that "alchemy resonates with eternity, first."

[Antares]

I suppose to say that "magic resonates with techonology" is to say that "alchemy resonates with eternity, first."
I don't think that magic is indistinguishable from very advanced technology. Maybe from a worm-like perspective it is not.

Magic is opposite to technology.

“Science can destroy religion by ignoring it as well as by disproving its tenets. No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, the non-existence of Zeus or Thor — but they have few followers now.”
“When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.”
- Arthur C. Clarke

Edit: magic is a dawn, science and technology is a dusk. In Chinese philosophy, magic would be wood, science would be metal - this is the analogy based on the very nature of the two. The interesting question would be: so what is the fire and what is the water? :) Fire is alchemy. Water is mystery. Fire doesn't understand water, metal doesn't understand wood; science doesn't understand magic.

BTW Chinese says that water kills fire, and metal kills wood. How true. :) We indeed live in very yin (dark) times nowadays - it's called kaliyuga. ;)

However, bear in mind that fire kills metal.

[olyris]

science would be metal [...] :) Fire is alchemy [...] However, bear in mind that fire kills metal.
I do believe that an alchemist (or initiate of any sort, for that matter), is to be totally beyond conventions/norms in the due course of time. Their master can disconnect this conformist ideology with knowledge of truth. Or, they can just work with fire until they well understand the proof is self, not others. A master in the end, suggestably, assists with creating a master. This is what I do not like about religion - not enough fishing with your own tackle.

[Antares]

The elements theory (which are in essence the principles that rule the manifestation / substance of creation), as present in alchemy, is indeed something that is supposed to be beyond the "common" conventions. It teaches about the principles beyond principles, as alchemy is all about the principles (in action).

However, alchemy is a certain approach, after all - which can be thought of, then, as a teaching, it is about principles applied to itself. So while alchemy deals with transformations (hence fire), we can percieve it as a system of concepts that also falls into another (meta-)system of concepts. See? Transform the mind of a scientist, and the principles of science itself become affected. Because this is his or her mind which created them. You affect not the object, but the subject, then, i.e. the source. This is a meta-level of concepts, that are applied to alchemy as well.

So my view is that the only aspect that is really beyond any principles is consciousness: it is that what creates principles, like those found in alchemy. Everything else - no matter what meta-meta-meta-concept you could go with - is an object within a system, and a subject of another system. I think you could go infinitely with finding new meta-systems, and perhaps it's what the consciousness development is about in the gods' realms. They may have kind of wars (being actually mind games) where they play with concepts to win over another. It is not something that - to a degree - scientists did miss, they didn't - the same idea, in at least some limited form, appeared quite recently about 100 years ago in mathematics... and this is a good evidence where fire kills metal, as - as you pointed out - it's something that goes beyond conventions. Try to define fire as a principle as opposed to the other 4 principles within this system - you may have a serious challange here. If you're interested in this rather philosophical (and rather not mathematical - any more at this point) dilemma, you may see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_G%C3%B6del

BTW, I do think that teachings about alchemy are not alchemy itself (in action). The former is occult, kind of science, i.e. metal element. :) A paradox where science about the subject can be killed by the subject itself. Because this is the dilemma of the systems that Kurt Godel has discovered, thus undermining the principles of mathematics previously believed to be fixed "norms".

[olyris]

The work of consciousness is alchemy.