Kundalini is something you definitely DO NOT WANT.

[DarkChylde]

when there's a K-spike , you mind goes haywire.

if you're a gifted telepath , the ajna and the shasrara chakras ( the third eye and the central brain) cannot be controlled .


just don't do it , it makes you strong in a lot of ways , my occult magic rituals have risen very high but its not worth the price.


it will turn you malicious at times you will mess with other peoples mind and get caught up in tough ♥♥♥♥.


i wish i never did this.
http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-026.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

[olyris]

what you describe is not kundalini itself but a karma . i have it too. "should i be calling myself vulnerable?" "well yes but not a victim." it's there regardless.
(the ajna <-> sahsrara block)

i wonder how to solve it...

[DarkChylde]

take anti-psychotic pills2158

[DarkChylde]

we have a moderator who under went the entire process

it does end and people complete the who cycle of it

when Kundalini is done with you? that depends on you entirely

[Timothy]

what you describe is not kundalini itself but a karma . i have it too. "should i be calling myself vulnerable?" "well yes but not a victim." it's there regardless.
(the ajna <-> sahsrara block)

i wonder how to solve it...

Astutely stated,

To what affair is this "stumbling block"...that at hindsight revealed our karma orchestrating nature/s...both human and personal.

Never blame the messenger/mechanism of delivery.

"SAIL" http://youtu.be/cGytpGaaHHI

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Is not this twixt ajna and sahsrara our very confused and woeful arjuna appealing to his lowly chariot driver only to find Krishna not to either "side", but rather with him and him with you.

Arjuna here is caught to within his dis-abilities, yet it is to within the abilities "rddhis...iddhis" that have delivered him to true choice, not his choice...but true choice.

Not my will...but your's Lord...

Siddhi/s ... Perfection/s ... attainment, accomplishment, success~>Pure

Pure Consciousness...not an all seeing eye that balances...not an illustrious crown sovereign made...

Pure Consciousness ... Chitta, Sid-Dhar, Chit-Thar ... To the Pure all things are pure...As It Is...Tat Tvam Asi...

But...be patient...wait upon her...to perfect. I've seen "chitta" change, as the hand is quicker than the eye; I've seen "it's" counter-part "sina" in that same instant change. (The Wages of Sin are Death)

The impossible scales of our "oy vey iz mir"...that decries, even as I know right, I yet do wrong....

The Hand is truly quicker than the Eye. How does not matter, What matters is that we are nimble in THAT nigh where nimble meets quick...making the jump, the Leap of pure faith caught up to within the hand's presence.

By our faith...are we... ;)

Regret not, but rather...ReJoice in now knowing The Cost... forgiveness is fore-given...As It Is...Tat Tvam Asi.

In Her Wombed Dream I Grew (et)and Into His Hand Delivered Of To Come True...As I Am.

Birth is trau-matic...fore/for truly...the kingdom of heaven is taken in Vi-O'Lence*.

What is Lent* but the act/s of contrition (contrite heart) giving up...renouncing..."for a time"...mayhaps...

I/You Am/Are A Child Of God...By any/every Name...Still...God...nameless but for mine/your's pon lips well pleased...

Dhar...fore/for I am Up-lifted Sky-ward.

Chi Hi Fo Tsi Si

Ache means Brother, for tis this very ache (Be-Nev-O'Lent Mis-Giving) in kind...'as it is' purely shared (in-sight out-looking/out-look in-citing)...

Ref. The Gita ; Patanjali Sutra ; Too many to list really...

Re-Solve ~ What cannot be spoken will be WEPT.

What we want we mayhaps to not need ... What we need we mayhaps to not want. Hind-Sight

Honor thy Mother, and thy Father.

Curse and be cur-sed ... Bless and Be bles-sed

Ride that mutha-fvka till the wheels fall off, then get out (et)and WALK.

There is only You. Un-Define-Able HuMan

The whining is as the howling wind beckoning at the un-agape windows...saying, COME...Eve'N Still...COME.

THAT THOU ART~>Thru~>HuMan<~WAS,IS (et)and Eve'R Shall Be.

...I shall be what I shall be...

EverGreen http://youtu.be/WIdMDLPNktw

Fore Who/Hu Is For Me...To Ha'Ve said, Too Ye'T say, Two forever (et)and ever saying,...TTT...Un-Re-Hearsed...

Coming True http://youtu.be/oaMTSOI1Zk4

...One Love...

[Timothy]

when there's a K-spike , you mind goes haywire.

if you're a gifted telepath , the ajna and the shasrara chakras ( the third eye and the central brain) cannot be controlled .


just don't do it , it makes you strong in a lot of ways , my occult magic rituals have risen very high but its not worth the price.


it will turn you malicious at times you will mess with other peoples mind and get caught up in tough ♥♥♥♥.


i wish i never did this.
http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-026.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

Crazy Beautiful...Honest...Trued...Pure...UnAdulTeRated

The Lightning ReFlex SYNAPSE of Our Raw Nerve Is A Junction Never Touching, where there be raw function-WARd there will be warring awkWARd dysfunction. DANCE=GRACE

(PRAC)!OO2160PS!(TICE)

It's All Good ... Love Your Self (et)and Be Loved

Your's,

Tim

[DarkChylde]

what you describe is not kundalini itself but a karma . i have it too. "should i be calling myself vulnerable?" "well yes but not a victim." it's there regardless.
(the ajna <-> sahsrara block)

i wonder how to solve it...

are you talking about Kundalini?


Im the resident expert , i am one of the select chosen few who was writing about it (at the older forum "post-jump"

my karma just isnt as bad yours

[olyris]

> are you talking about Kundalini?

dunno its your thread

> Im the resident expert , i am one of the select chosen few who was writing about it (at the older forum "post-jump"

yeah but im the guy in the story of christ

> my karma just isnt as bad yours

its in everybody. it is hip to be "neutral," sexually. well try telling that to energy... honestly the human form (including your kundalini) is fine. you should not be judging that.

[Timothy]

yeah but im the guy in the story of christ

Spelt like 'Tritus'...7 days old

[lord.of.the.now]

you should fully sound yourself before ever thinking of doing a k spike

read my healing schizophrenia thread

http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?18843-healing-schizophrenia-permanently-how-to-get-of-the-pills

[DarkChylde]

you should fully sound yourself before ever thinking of doing a k spike

read my healing schizophrenia thread

http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?18843-healing-schizophrenia-permanently-how-to-get-of-the-pills


I'm fairly certain Kundalini precipitates psychosis.If not already present.

[CFTraveler]

I agree.

[lord.of.the.now]

I'm fairly certain Kundalini precipitates psychosis.If not already present.

can you explain to another explanation,,,...

I don't understand explain it in a different way please thanks,,,...

[olyris]

I'm fairly certain Kundalini precipitates psychosis.If not already present.
yes, it does. get this though... my psychosis is, "i believe that the law is safe and the fundamentals are honest." well that is the default earth.
like islam keeps going on about the fundamentals being ratted... figure?

[ButterflyWoman]

I'm fairly certain Kundalini precipitates psychosis.If not already present.

I agree. I never had psychosis until I was in the midst of a Kundalini awakening. When the upheaval of that settled down, I never experienced psychosis again. Kundalini is disruptive in multiple ways, and this is potentially one of them.

[Leon]

It is very simple, to avoid mental and any kind of health issues because of kundalini one must to do daily mindfulness meditation.

Robert Bruce says meditation is the key, all masters say meditation is essential as it is the core of kundalini because kundalini is all about deep altered states of mind.

You awakened your kundalini and don't wont to practice meditation then AS YOU BREW, SO MUST YOU DRINK and don't complain.

[DarkChylde]

can you explain to another explanation,,,...

I don't understand explain it in a different way please thanks,,,...[/COLOR]


Kundalini isn't just an energetic phenomenon , it's also physiological , that means , it also works on a cellular and molecular level within the body , that in turn means that major bio-chemical processes are underway , say like alteration in levels of neurotransmitters , like dopamine , serotonin and norepinephrine which in turn have a pronounced effect on mentality and cognition altering them in ways that "aren't in their regular form or function".

Another thing Kundalini does is that it works on old ways of thinking and memories which haven't been confronted or are suppressed , now that's a lot of mental baggage that suddenly pours forth.

my personal opinion on the matter is that if Kundalini affects your everyday working life , i.e everyday functionality (job , kids , bills , errands) , it just isn't worth it.

[lord.of.the.now]

i thing i noticed about psychiatric out patients is they are all programmed with there own inner doctor

[lord.of.the.now]

...

[DarkChylde]

yes and we are all hypochondriacs with paranoia too.

welcome to the club.

[lord.of.the.now]

i think it's a good good thing DarkChylde thing actually having inner doctor. It's gave birth to my healing schizophrenia thread thanks to my inner doctor

[DarkChylde]

really? what till your sahasrara chakra opens , you wont be out of bed for days


psychosis is something all people in occult deal with , more so in the initial stages

then the madness is kind of fun , like flirting with danger.

[olyris]

i think it's a good good thing DarkChylde thing actually having inner doctor. It's gave birth to my healing schizophrenia thread thanks to my inner doctor
:idea:
psychology is the art of not calling things "bad."
psychiatry is the art of not calling things "wrong."

- my inner doctor :nono:

[74hc595]

Can you describe techniques that you used?
It would be very helpful, I'm currently trying to raise kundalini, but I only got as far as getting kundalini spike twice, but not the full rising. I've done it by chakra energy work (as in Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways), and raising energy to root chakra while in trance state.

[olyris]

Can you describe techniques that you used?
It would be very helpful, I'm currently trying to raise kundalini, but I only got as far as getting kundalini spike twice, but not the full rising. I've done it by chakra energy work (as in Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways), and raising energy to root chakra while in trance state.
neutral third eye in meditation. simply witness the space in the center of your head. making sure it it neither positive nor negative just clear and conscious. then let the energy rise gradually... you can contract the perineum gently for that.

that's my way.

[74hc595]

neutral third eye in meditation. simply witness the space in the center of your head. making sure it it neither positive nor negative just clear and conscious. then let the energy rise gradually... you can contract the perineum gently for that.

that's my way.

Thanks! Did it lead to full kundalini raising, like ones Robert Bruce describes?

[DarkChylde]

ajna is the most difficult chakra to deal with.

luckily I'm past that stage.

Kundalini is something we don't really know much about

[olyris]

Thanks! Did it lead to full kundalini raising, like ones Robert Bruce describes?
i haven't read RB on kundalini, but yes it did get the kundalini all the way up thru the crown. another technique (i have only tried the 2) is to send the orgasm up instead of out, in sex time.
kundalini destroys everything except the divine truth, so if you think you can SEE it's going to work out!

[74hc595]

Kundalini is something we don't really know much about

Yes, but I think it can be researched in the same way OOBE/AP can - even since original Astral Dynamics book was published there was a lot of progress in the field, making OOBE easier than ever. The problem with kundalini is that it's much rarer, so every experience counts. There was even some mainstream scientific interest in it in 1930's (for example C.G. Jung's lectures on kundalini), but without effective techniques it didn't go very far. In my opinion creating effective and relatively safe (as much as it's possible with kundalini :) ) techniques could do a lot of good for humanity.


i haven't read RB on kundalini, but yes it did get the kundalini all the way up thru the crown. another technique (i have only tried the 2) is to send the orgasm up instead of out, in sex time.
kundalini destroys everything except the divine truth, so if you think you can SEE it's going to work out!

Thanks! :)

[ButterflyWoman]

It is very simple

No, it really isn't. If it was "very simple", people wouldn't need to have help, assistance, read books, talk to others, etc. They could just let it happen as it will and then get on with their lives. Perhaps there are people who experience a very strightforward Kundalini awakening, but that's the exception, and not the rule.

And what happens to people who have a spontaneous awakening with no idea what's actually happening to them? People without access to forums like this, people who don't even know what to ask or look for in the way of help? How is it "very simple" for them? Do you assume that absolutely everyone deliberately awakened Kundalini? Or that everyone for whom Kundalini awakened must have been "doing something" to make it awaken?

You can't assume that Kundalini is always deliberate, intentional, wanted, or otherwise chosen. You also really shouldn't engage in finger pointings and "it's your own fault" type thinking. It's not only uncharitable, it's ignorant.

[Leon]

No, it really isn't. If it was "very simple", people wouldn't need to have help, assistance, read books, talk to others, etc. They could just let it happen as it will and then get on with their lives. Perhaps there are people who experience a very strightforward Kundalini awakening, but that's the exception, and not the rule.

And what happens to people who have a spontaneous awakening with no idea what's actually happening to them? People without access to forums like this, people who don't even know what to ask or look for in the way of help? How is it "very simple" for them? Do you assume that absolutely everyone deliberately awakened Kundalini? Or that everyone for whom Kundalini awakened must have been "doing something" to make it awaken?

You can't assume that Kundalini is always deliberate, intentional, wanted, or otherwise chosen. You also really shouldn't engage in finger pointings and "it's your own fault" type thinking. It's not only uncharitable, it's ignorant.


:loveyou::clap::wave::lol::love::heart:

[Timothy]

SomeOne Saved My Life ToNight
Http://youtu.be/Fv09dHsrZK8

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[DarkChylde]

No, it really isn't. If it was "very simple", people wouldn't need to have help, assistance, read books, talk to others, etc. They could just let it happen as it will and then get on with their lives. Perhaps there are people who experience a very strightforward Kundalini awakening, but that's the exception, and not the rule.

And what happens to people who have a spontaneous awakening with no idea what's actually happening to them? People without access to forums like this, people who don't even know what to ask or look for in the way of help? How is it "very simple" for them? Do you assume that absolutely everyone deliberately awakened Kundalini? Or that everyone for whom Kundalini awakened must have been "doing something" to make it awaken?

You can't assume that Kundalini is always deliberate, intentional, wanted, or otherwise chosen. You also really shouldn't engage in finger pointings and "it's your own fault" type thinking. It's not only uncharitable, it's ignorant.


not only that , there's the fact Kundalini affects those around you as well , it's a life-changing event.

[74hc595]

not only that , there's the fact Kundalini affects those around you as well , it's a life-changing event.

I wonder, if at first hundreds, then thousands of people would consciously awaken and raise Kundalini, that could possibly be a world-changing event...

[DarkChylde]

Kundalini is something that's amazingly rare , those who are chosen for this part to take in their life , i.e , struggle and bear much spiritual strife (they might be chosen or they might do it out of greed , or the former could turn into later) are doomed.

Yes there are rewards but very frankly they aren't that grand , super powers are what we all accomplish when are in our teens and bumble into the mystic past.

[Timothy]

not only that , there's the fact Kundalini affects those around you as well , it's a life-changing event.

That's PRIMO insight worthy of a sight more build in and around [even another throughing] toward it[Her]self. Awesome! DC!!!

To within clearing Her presence, I can add toward those "present" around affected, evil is not a presence ... evil is an absence.

One mayhaps find themself fleaing affected love that their loved ones be protected.

Ref: olyris - "the silver lining" http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?19376-Protecting-my-mind-with-holy-water

How "selfish" gives birth to selflessness.

Tim

P.S. check this out: The Lonely ♥♥♥♥♥et
Http://youtu.be/sN0uU9eggEs

[ButterflyWoman]

I would call Kundalini "reality altering". When the self is altered, the reality around that self is altered.

Theoretically, one who has successfully incorporated the awakening/awareness that comes with Kundalini (and as far as I've seen and experienced, that can take literally years and doesn't always come to what you might call completion) should be able to master the reality around them, possibly quite significantly. However, that's theoretical, and very few people ever seem to really master it in any significant way. It's possible, but seems to be a tricky thing to do. The apparent persistence of reality is a hard habit to break, even with Kundalini working.

[Timothy]

BW,

I totally agree , but in a different measure. Mastery is a challenging term, that most think or imagine to know as power. I'd rather be a dud than yet another gaudy representation of "god knows wtf".

It's all according to whether by choice, one's treasures are either to be usurped here on earth of men -or- stored in heaven towards an exaltation not of men.

Ultimately, a one standing down one's power, grows through several growths, say 5, where one ends up having all but made it, falling hard just within reach of the gate Beauty, perhaps the Oasis. Fear not, for those just inside come and collect that which remains to stay.

That which remain's wealth is very depth calling unto depth, sorrow and joy, the likes of which are the certitudinal ears nn eyes ... these few hearted listening, mastering "it is what it is, and it sure as hell ain't what it ain't". The savory nn the unsavory... 'as it is'. The groan nn travail of the Spirit, even the smile nn subsequent laughter.

In the beginning...

Tim

[atsguy]

I can’t find it right now, but the philosopher Francis Bacon who was born in the 15th century said that the entirety of mathematics known to him would have taken a lifetime to learn. These days your average high schooler learns all the levels of mathematics known to him by the time they are in 10th grade.

The same will be done with kundalini in the future, and all other spiritual/energetic pursuits. Once enough knowledge is gained and skills are mastered this will all become common to everyone on the planet eventually.

So don’t think of it as something that is completely outside the realm of human experience and only a few chosen will attain it. Anyone can learn anything.

[74hc595]

To within clearing Her presence, I can add toward those "present" around affected, evil is not a presence ... evil is an absence.
:heart:


I can’t find it right now, but the philosopher Francis Bacon who was born in the 15th century said that the entirety of mathematics known to him would have taken a lifetime to learn. These days your average high schooler learns all the levels of mathematics known to him by the time they are in 10th grade.

The same will be done with kundalini in the future, and all other spiritual/energetic pursuits. Once enough knowledge is gained and skills are mastered this will all become common to everyone on the planet eventually.

So don’t think of it as something that is completely outside the realm of human experience and only a few chosen will attain it. Anyone can learn anything.

Exactly. It has already happened with OOBE techniques, energy work techniques are also better than ever before. I think that with systematic research Kundalini will be also made way more attainable. In the Western world it was researched openly only starting in early 1900's. In 1930's, C.G. Jung gave a series of lectures on Kundalini, but there were still no techniques, and he believed that Kundalini raising should be spontaneous.

With modern energy work (like Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways) getting Kundalini spike (and probably full rising, but personally I still have to check this) is a lot of work, but is certainly possible, and I think that it's possible for anyone with enough determination. As more people experience this, we will know what works, what doesn't, and what to be cautious of, the techniques will get more refined, and it'll be even easier.

[DarkChylde]

Kundalini is a vicious endless cycle , she will do what shes chooses , you if you are chosen she will do as she pleases.

[DarkChylde]

You will be more compassionate, kind, and forgiving, and you will show more humility. Life will no longer be solely about you and your desires. Your life will become more about serving others because when you serve others, you are serving yourself.

[Timothy]

DC,

How may we make parity from your last two posts today. They would simultaneously appear to eventuate the collide into one magnanimous union.

Old saying - To make an honest Woman ... out of Her

[olyris]

different karma now (see my post on page 1st), this one is about belittlement (not vulnerability). its going "ok so if your not vulnerable i still say you are a petty one."

i wonder who we're undoing... i hope its not the queen i have spent ages doing that already. grin.

[olyris]

DC your last 2 posts are spot on fact. but about the disillusionment... mostly people are disillusioned with other people or life! and kundalini solves that. you seem to be a reversal of that principle! are you of the world, or closer to light?

[Timothy]

As far as I can tell, if one is still eating/drinkin nn takin a crap/pee...then the world is unrenouceably their's.

Does in no way mean a one renounces the light of spirit. It is what it is, and it sure as hell ain't what it ain't, and THAT is not our's to "escapably" even renounce.

However, to what is one's freedom if they in kind are not THAT which free ... freely frees other?

The "I see monkeys" syndrome is merely a higher "dis-ease"...and not the higher love.

To say, evil is not a presence ... evil is an absence. Therefore, please do be humanly present and through expressive human nature be accounted fore/for.

Noblesse Oblige

[Timothy]

Double posted!? Please delete.

[DarkChylde]

DC your last 2 posts are spot on fact. but about the disillusionment... mostly people are disillusioned with other people or life! and kundalini solves that. you seem to be a reversal of that principle! are you of the world, or closer to light?


Kundalini isn't just going to maim you and put you back together , your whole life and lives afterwards are altered , I don't really know what the light and dark elements are (i know well of them though) and have battled them , whatever the upshot of that is , is utter upheaval.

As to gaining insight into people let me tell you of it , fact is most people are petty , malicious and are in it for the cheap thrills , then some are entirely on your scale of thought

im just going to say what Cft said when this question was asked years ago "It's just made me much more cynical"

[DarkChylde]

DC,

How may we make parity from your last two posts today. They would simultaneously appear to eventuate the collide into one magnanimous union.

Old saying - To make an honest Woman ... out of Her

I pray and meditate over abundance and giving , the word magnanimous is the prime example of al Lat , she is abundance itself.

She made and distributed what is now known as most of the spiritual and physical world.

Kundalini in abundance is lets just say , ummmm a faucet going overhaul , too little is just as bad as too much : you can choke on it.

[olyris]

im just going to say what Cft said when this question was asked years ago "It's just made me much more cynical"
ok well i am not going to try and change your mind whether you like it or not, just sharing this:

cynicism (violet) realises people are fair because justice is good

cynicism is the ism of the third eye, all isms do is know. in case you wanted a way with those thoughts and feelings of yours, i suggest to realise the ism.

[DarkChylde]

ok well i am not going to try and change your mind whether you like it or not, just sharing this:

cynicism (violet) realises people are fair because justice is good

cynicism is the ism of the third eye, all isms do is know. in case you wanted a way with those thoughts and feelings of yours, i suggest to realise the ism.

I have opinions on this but they aren't productive.

[olyris]

ok. well here's what i believe:

knowing is proof of love before during and after something happens. if somebody knows they are being human being and not upset, in time. not only is knowing normal it is also a bit controlling, any fear in others turns into a beautiful or reasonable expression of decency. other isms include perfectionism, materialism, mysticism i have written down plenty. if KNOWING is not going to solve somebody's problems with kundalini, frankly i think that person is a vege.

cheers, o

[DarkChylde]

Kundalini automatically ( as we have all agreed ) leads invariably to Kundalini Psychosis , at one point or the other .

surviving that and moving on is the trick to it , I mean , those who deal with it , don't have it easy.