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IA56
10th November 2016, 08:47 AM
Hi all :-)
I need to talk about belief´s...if looking closely everything is belief´s??
How to define truth??
How to tackle when feeling both people and also the other dimensions fighting against me....are people controlled by other entities?? ....if....should I only let it be
or fight back??
I do only observe and when it is storming I just breath into my guts and wait for it to settle down.
I find these issues so big that it is very hard to start to talk about them, but I feel a deep need to write this post.
I do not know how true all what I have experienced in my life...but somehow I feel I just have to make up my mind and go along with it....to get some peace in mind...but off course all thoughts are disturbing my peace of mind.
I feel I am in a cross road and have to make up my mind what direction to choose...If I am creating my own world...what happens to the real world...does it not exist??...What is real world??...
I would be very happy to discuss these things....please....
Love
ia
Timothy
10th November 2016, 01:55 PM
Hi IA,
I suggest that if the often arrogance of a new member's most apparent inexperience can knock you off your seat...probably to pinch yourself for an Ouch. ;)
IA56
10th November 2016, 03:20 PM
Hi IA,
I suggest that if the often arrogance of a new member's most apparent inexperience can knock you off your seat...probably to pinch yourself for an Ouch. ;)
Timothy, can you please express this in other words....I am so exhausted that I nearly can´t breath...I am drowning and need very simply words...direct words....please...
When I have passed this state...I will come back and explain...but I am not in any way capable now.....I am under an initiation...I think...it is why I am nearly lost....
Your respons does give me more energy....thank you....I do love you.
Love
ia
Timothy
10th November 2016, 03:45 PM
I love you too...IA. I believe in uniquely You. :)
IA56
10th November 2016, 03:58 PM
I love you too...IA. I believe in uniquely You. :)
Thank you Timothy :-)
Happy tears here now :heart:
Love
ia
Timothy
10th November 2016, 09:00 PM
Pure As Snow http://youtu.be/co5gy_2uOEY
•~•
...The Other...
You came through rain
Wet, shivering
Strength you feign
I embraced you,
From where have you fled?
Come rest next to the warm fire
Our shed
The months pass, trees shake off golden dust
You grew just like the sun
Peeking over the horizon, to it we run
Playing in the forest, our silent home
Away from the worries of a city
In solitude, not alone
Words said never
Rain fell, my cheeks wetter
Yet you, oh so gentle
Cheered me, my heart settle
Soon our paths diverge, time grows low
To separate worlds we must go
Separate we are, though not alone
We set out to claim our thrones
Lament not we will meet again
If not here, then in our Ascent
For this is only temporary parting
Our bond is much more than our holding
Just as this White rain, the world, covers
Entirely so do our thoughts
Envelop, the other.
•~•
olyris
11th November 2016, 12:25 AM
at the crossroads: one can enter the barnhouse, straight ahead thru the lights, or take a right turn and enter the church, where Christ abides. satan is in the barnhouse.
what I am doing is formulating "wants" (soul expressions) like home, food, water, wine, cigarettes. I would sort of like to drive again but I think technology will be my next want. it is building the reality from scratch with love. yes it is alone. the others sorry to say don't matter to themselves.
(my perspective - soul - is not necessarily alike yours).
IA56
11th November 2016, 09:54 AM
at the crossroads: one can enter the barnhouse, straight ahead thru the lights, or take a right turn and enter the church, where Christ abides. satan is in the barnhouse.
what I am doing is formulating "wants" (soul expressions) like home, food, water, wine, cigarettes. I would sort of like to drive again but I think technology will be my next want. it is building the reality from scratch with love. yes it is alone. the others sorry to say don't matter to themselves.
(my perspective - soul - is not necessarily alike yours).
Hi olyris,
Why do it have to be church...Christ said....he is not in any buildings and I have own experience about Christ energy....it is the same as Buddha....I think I have already decided if there is a side to choose....I have long experience about churches and I do not want to be in any cult as I see religions....it is a cult if there is a thought system to follow....I like to take in esoteric thoughts though....I have had many ahah´s with Kabbalah and the three of life.....the crossroad was more if I will build up a routine with meditation or not....I have meditated many years...I have had a long pause and the crossroad is about if I go back to meditation or not....I am already in Christ/Buddha energies.....
I need more discussions about the what we call reality and truth....it may be difficult or not :-)
Thank you for your input, much appreciated.
Love
ia
IA56
11th November 2016, 09:59 AM
Pure As Snow http://youtu.be/co5gy_2uOEY
•~•
...The Other...
You came through rain
Wet, shivering
Strength you feign
I embraced you,
From where have you fled?
Come rest next to the warm fire
Our shed
The months pass, trees shake off golden dust
You grew just like the sun
Peeking over the horizon, to it we run
Playing in the forest, our silent home
Away from the worries of a city
In solitude, not alone
Words said never
Rain fell, my cheeks wetter
Yet you, oh so gentle
Cheered me, my heart settle
Soon our paths diverge, time grows low
To separate worlds we must go
Separate we are, though not alone
We set out to claim our thrones
Lament not we will meet again
If not here, then in our Ascent
For this is only temporary parting
Our bond is much more than our holding
Just as this White rain, the world, covers
Entirely so do our thoughts
Envelop, the other.
•~•
WoW Timothy :-)
It feels like when I entered this incarnation and left God my real home.
Thank you!!
:heart:
Love
ia
Timothy
11th November 2016, 04:33 PM
I [am in] need [of] more "discussion" about《the what》 we call >reality and truth< .... "it" may be ♡difficult or not♡
Less is More...UnTo
1391
Ha = the genuine article
Mah = What
Ham = "Do not eat of "Ham""
M = of MaHaM
Aha! = M&M ... "the right hand don't know "what" the left hand is doing"
M&Ms...melt in your mouth..nn..not in your hand
1392
》Nigh《Prayer...Meditate...Con-Template...Meditate...Prayer》Nigh《
"《"If" I am not for my Self, then Who is for Me?》 >"If" I am only for my Self, then "what" am "i"?< ♡"If" not NOW, when?♡" ~ Hillel
Man
Candle in the Wind http://youtu.be/cJuOc0Ld1uk
"i" ...♡vs or nn♡... I Am...
Wild is the Wind http://youtu.be/uJE0GufdRvI
..........V..........
1394
.........VV.........
Hu
P.S. Now is to me not to build on this reply...so I wait...
Timothy
11th November 2016, 06:29 PM
at the crossroads: one can enter the barnhouse, straight ahead thru the lights, or take a right turn and enter the church, where Christ abides. satan is in the barnhouse.
what I am doing is formulating "wants" (soul expressions) like home, food, water, wine, cigarettes. I would sort of like to drive again but I think technology will be my next want. it is building the reality from scratch with love. yes it is alone. the others sorry to say don't matter to themselves.
(my perspective - soul - is not necessarily alike yours).
Thee,
The Barn
1395
The Life
Dance Me ... To The End of Love
Http://youtu.be/0Yc4QrvNJ1Q
The Temple
1396
The Living
Take Thou of either in One away nn where Be the Other?
Pregnant Potentiality
1398
Foecunditatis
The Answer lies asleep within the Question
Question...
1397
Answered.
"Get Thee behind Me"
2○:2● in Hindsight of <●>X<○>
Y○U nn Y●U
Of Thermals nn Henleys In The Fall...Warmed Up
Maybe Not http://youtu.be/NdlOdztF0ac
"If" you know "what" is behind You, then You under-stand That which standing before YOU ... IS. IKAVOD
NVN
Notes: UU = V ; EE = I ; Not 19, Not 21, But 20 ; (et)and Not Just 20, But Rather, 20:20 ... Hind Sight ... Pure nn Sanct
2○:2●/<●>X<○> = Mind /Over\ Matter ... Get Over "It"..."If" Thou Will
olyris
12th November 2016, 03:19 AM
Why do it have to be church...Christ said....he is not in any buildings and I have own experience about Christ energy....it is the same as Buddha....I think I have already decided if there is a side to choose....I have long experience about churches and I do not want to be in any cult as I see religions....it is a cult if there is a thought system to follow....I like to take in esoteric thoughts though....I have had many ahah´s with Kabbalah and the three of life.....the crossroad was more if I will build up a routine with meditation or not....I have meditated many years...I have had a long pause and the crossroad is about if I go back to meditation or not....I am already in Christ/Buddha energies.....
I need more discussions about the what we call reality and truth....it may be difficult or not :-)
i find the analogy of the crossroads specifically means you have a choice between the sacred and the profane. meditating is good for clarifying *choices* and *needs* including other people. i dunno its up to you, that or what brings you the clarity you want?
truth and reality have been abolished. you have to find it in you. no external powers-that-be are calling you normal anymore. you have time to decide if what you have learned in spirituality, you are going to apply all by yourself. or, are you going to abide in somebody else's reality creatin'. there are masters that will give you a decent place but i suspect you are already too "big" for that, IA56.
there just is no external solution ultimately. you need answers... the answer is you .
IA56
12th November 2016, 08:07 AM
[QUOTE=olyris;142623]i find the analogy of the crossroads specifically means you have a choice between the sacred and the profane. meditating is good for clarifying *choices* and *needs* including other people. i dunno its up to you, that or what brings you the clarity you want?
truth and reality have been abolished. you have to find it in you. no external powers-that-be are calling you normal anymore. you have time to decide if what you have learned in spirituality, you are going to apply all by yourself. or, are you going to abide in somebody else's reality creatin'. there are masters that will give you a decent place but i suspect you are already too "big" for that, IA56.
there just is no external solution ultimately. you need answers... the answer is you .[/QUOTE ]
Hi olyris :-)
Thank you for your input, I feel fear and confusion....I might be afraid to stand by my self and for my self....as I do not see me separated so the confusion is total....I have got thoughts...that to be here on earth you have to learn this...to stand for yourself....and my feeling has bean since my childhood that we all are the same....and therefore I can´t understand what all are fighting for...war...is total dishonor and insanity...so this lesson is so hard for me to understand ....sorry....I might have started something what feels to big for me to solve??
Love
ia
Śiva
12th November 2016, 09:34 AM
“The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.”
―Bill Hicks
olyris
12th November 2016, 11:06 AM
I have got thoughts...that to be here on earth you have to learn this...to stand for yourself....sorry....I might have started something what feels to big for me to solve?
appreciate beauty, practice patience... solace is assured if you don't freak out. I think you will be ok. o
IA56
12th November 2016, 11:24 AM
Thank you all :heart: for the support, it means the world for me ...:loveyou:
Love
ia
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