Sublimation of sexual energy and abstention

[manilow]

Всем привет! =D
I am 20 years old, a male. I and my bear write from Russia and my English is awful, I write by means of online translators, I apologize)).
Help to realize please such ability using a great technique of dear Robert Bruce.

I am interested in aspects (concrete technically, not philosophy, biology and psychology) of sublimation of so-called sexual energy for realization of full sexual abstention (without sex and masturbation, time at the request of the person) on another of celibacy (more precisely: lives without sexual inclination, but not a celibacy).
Regularity of their performance, the step-by-step description, links to similar subjects (if some people already created them at this forum).

I often heard about this opportunity from the Indian and Chinese sources, but would like to learn as it to practice with the help Robert Bruce's technician.
Here the example of a popular explanation of that that is required from Elliot Halse "Release Sex Energy without Jerking Off"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBOSqgPg8jc

I would be glad to communicate to the people having similar experience within many months or years (but not couples of days) in modern conditions of usual business life (but not a privacy in caves).
Many thanks for attention and understanding. It is really important for me.





The following can be quite important.
All of us are familiar with Robert Bruce's books, where a maximum of a reality of pragmatic work on ourselves and a minimum of the mystical poetic description "unifications from the Universe and other flowers of a lotus and legends in style of the East (India or China)".

Therefore in the context of my subject please avoid philosophy, psychology, any vast everyday councils and other.
I have the point of view and I am interested only in the corresponding PRACTICE, but not talk.

I am not interested in philosophy, morals that is correct/is natural and that isn't present, medicine, biology, psychology, instincts, etc. etc.
For example, it isn't necessary to write me poems in style of "Don Juan's passion" about that as sex and love in our life is important. Or to write me lectures on medicine and biology. Or to analyze my mentality "why he is interested in such things" and to distribute councils.
Understand me correctly, I am not a virgin, I love sex, I love women, their soul and boobs too))... and still I love sport, hockey, a guitar, a formula 1, to eat, mother, the sister, a cat and a bla-bl, but all this isn't important...
And only that is important that the person can and that the person can't.
Whether therefore in this subject important only the person CAN energetically sublimate that and AS to make it.

Still an example of that annoys me...
Council like "find to yourself the girl" or "the guy, you simply need good sex".
It all the same what to hear on work with energy on Robert Bruce's books something type
"would find better work than to be engaged in this nonsense, you have nothing to do, it is pseudoscientific nonsense of ancient Chinese, Indian barbarians, naive people so compensate the otioseness in life and authors of similar books earn on their nonsense, etc.".

All this I discussed already thousands of times and I don't want any more.

PS
I (and my bear) found similar related topics)), I apologize but if you know something really good send the link please
stupid russian), калинка-малинка ла-ла-ла

[HoldOrFold]

I'm currently on 35 days of total abstinence and I'm not doing any special techniques to sublimate the energy.

I've experimented with sublimation in the past with bad results. In general, the advise is to move the energy up the spine and into the crown and back down into the dantian through the "microcosmic orbit": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcosmic_orbit

For me, that made hot energy go up my spine and into my head where it stayed and gave me many problems. It's a common problem that energy goes up in a man's head and doesn't come back down again and can lead to kundalini psychosis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_syndrome

So I stay away from such practices nowadays. What I find useful though, when strong urges come over me is to do the celibate pose: http://www.pinklotus.org/-%20KY%20Postures%20Celibate%20Pose.htm

^ It's very useful in reducing sexual urges without forcing hot energy up the spine, but inevitably the urges come back sooner or later.

You might want to investigate Taoism a bit more, they have helpful methods for celibacy and sexual energy sublimation. There is one excersise I forget the name of, but it involves creating a two way link between your heart and your genitals. Your heart in Taoism is fire and your genitals are water, the heart fire "steams" the water which then rises to the heart sublimated and then descends and creates a suction vacuum which perpetuates the cycle. There's a specific way of doing this though and some warnings, perhaps I'll remember the name. I will post if I do.

[manilow]

HoldOrFold, thank you very much). Send please this interesting exercise if you can a complete description from books or articles. In the future as it will be convenient for you), I and my bear always badly understood as to use times in English)). All the best for you.

[HoldOrFold]

No problem, Manilow. By the way, I checked what my words look like in a Russian translator then translated back to English... it seems like it makes us sound a bit silly, but hopefully I can get my point across!

The name of the exercise is "Kan and Li" or the "Lesser Kan and Li".

I originally learned the exercise from a website but it was a basic version which you could learn and implement quickly and most likely didn't have the possible dangers associated with the full practice. The website was very good and I tried finding it for a long time with no luck as it was taken down... but then I remembered the internet archive and found it. Here it is on the web-archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20120314022857/http://www.precisiondocs.com/~altaoism . I recommend this website, it has some very good practical articles about other practices as well so consider reading other related articles in there such as "establishing the abdomen", "the extraordinary vessels" etc.

Here are the articles relating to the "Kan and Li" exercise and variants:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120104202335/http://precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/kanliIntro.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20121110011126/http://precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/images/LesserKanLiScreen.jpg

Variants:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100207134613/http://www.precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/kanliSBFWCompare.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20111225082028/http://precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/HLSBielsFireWater.htm

^ The resources above are basic versions of the practice which are good enough for me, but if you want more in-depth study of the advanced practice here are some more resources to investigate:

http://taoism.about.com/od/practices/a/Kan_Li.htm
Mantak Chia's Lesser Kan and Li book: http://www.slideshare.net/mantakchia/mantak-chia-lesser-kan-li
http://www.universal-tao.com/tao/course_it_i.html
http://www.healingtaousa.com/pdf/LesserKanandLi_Lecture.pdf

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[manilow]

Don't worry because of the translation). I am familiar with Mantak Chia researches and normally I am guided). If something unclear I will be able to specify.
I hope the general sense of my words it is more or less clear too)).