Frightening OBE

[SoulSail]

Here's a weird one.

I spent about three hours in silent meditation yesterday, something I enjoy for recreation. My last session was just before bed so I could loosen up and drift out easily if I wanted.

Hit bed and did my AP mantra: "Let's go out tonight". I held my awareness firmly in place while my brain closed shop and the subtle vibrations began to flow. Something was off though I couldn't identify it, nor did I care to.

I enter the Void, but not in my usual manner. I'm having sleep paralysis, and rather severely. And this time, it's not just me in the Void, but the entire bed, and together we're picking up tremendous speed, slowing, then accelerating in rhythm to my alertness. Nothing seems comfortable about this and then, as if something is ducking at the foot of the bed, lifting its hands to grab my feet and pull me along faster. Alarm immediately sets in and the whole thing goes from alarm to almost panic. It's got both feet and I'm paralyzed, freaked, and unable to address the matter. So then I just laugh at it in my mind. Probably my mind in a transition state, making stuff up.

"You can't destroy me! You realize you can't destroy me so give up."--that's the message I send without moving my mouth. And suddenly I'm in a lucid dream, so I suppose this is a WILD transition.

In the dream my girlfriend and I are driving through a town, just chatting. I can't make the car work because I'm essentially not there. Hard to describe this, but my dreams now start with me in them and end with me vanishing, like a ghost. I honk the horn but nobody can hear because there is no car, no horn, no me. She starts to drive and I'm there again so we stop and find a bike that I begin to ride in circles around a big hole in the ground (Void?). I approach it and pull back realizing I'll topple if I continue. I tell her I have a favorite song to sing her, but she says I will be let down and I know it's because that was a song she shared with another love in years gone by, at least in the dream. I let it pass.

I open my eyes. Back to the bedroom and in a relieved state of mind. The entire night is riddled with more dreams so lucid I can't imaging them drawing any closer to the waking state. Seamless stuff. In one I'm washing dishes with a friend of mine (please check out this site, BTW), and joking about silly divinity sayings that are essentially without merit.

http://youarethegrace.strikingly.com/

Thoughts?

[CFTraveler]

Remember when I used to project, chair and all? That's normal now. When I project the chair or bed come along. This is because we can now project without total dissociation from the physical, so wherever the butt is, can be in it.
I think this was a 'self-explanatory' experience, the experience was telling you what was happening, almost in a punny way.

[SoulSail]

"Let's go out"...

There is a time and place for exclusive specificity. Next time I'm being selfish.

Now, on the other hand, why do I always fly feet first? I figure it's because I'm a step before you think sort of guy, but...

[dontco]

SoulSail, I wanted to add something about dreaming of cars. Monroe had said we tend to think of our cars as a "second body", subconsiously, and so when we we dream about "our car" it could indeed be about our body which is our "vehicle", like the car. I, for example, had a very strange dream- you might just call it a nightmare- that is related to that observation and supports it before I read Monroe's theory about the meaning of the consept of cars in dreams. There was a car- and there was a blond, about 40 years old women sitting inside the car (the car you would call "the vehicle" or the body) and as the women started talking I BECAME the women and I don't remember what she said- I just remember I completely lost control and she took over. As you would imagine that was a very spooky experience and I woke up very frightened. After a while I realized I was probably a channel (and it's hightly possible this women has been a past life personality. But what can we do?) So to conclude- the car was the vehicle- the body- my body and the car was a "channel" for the women or at least that's my interpretation of the (very creepy) dream.

[SoulSail]

Think you nailed it, dontco.

Soul

[IA56]

SoulSail, I wanted to add something about dreaming of cars. Monroe had said we tend to think of our cars as a "second body", subconsiously, and so when we we dream about "our car" it could indeed be about our body which is our "vehicle", like the car. I, for example, had a very strange dream- you might just call it a nightmare- that is related to that observation and supports it before I read Monroe's theory about the meaning of the consept of cars in dreams. There was a car- and there was a blond, about 40 years old women sitting inside the car (the car you would call "the vehicle" or the body) and as the women started talking I BECAME the women and I don't remember what she said- I just remember I completely lost control and she took over. As you would imagine that was a very spooky experience and I woke up very frightened. After a while I realized I was probably a channel (and it's hightly possible this women has been a past life personality. But what can we do?) So to conclude- the car was the vehicle- the body- my body and the car was a "channel" for the women or at least that's my interpretation of the (very creepy) dream.

Hi doncto,
Yes I have noticed the same thing. When I ride a bicycle I know it is a total new body or new part what is hard to manuevre, the difficulty of the vechile in the dream is showing how or where in the development of the new body have reached.

Love
ia

[dontco]

Hi doncto,
Yes I have noticed the same thing. When I ride a bicycle I know it is a total new body or new part what is hard to manuevre, the difficulty of the vechile in the dream is showing how or where in the development of the new body have reached.

Love
ia

IA56, this is amazing :) I hope one day to be as spiritually developed as you are.
Namaste!

[IA56]

IA56, this is amazing :) I hope one day to be as spiritually developed as you are.
Namaste!

Hi doncto,
I do not know what that means?? "spiritually developed"?? elaborate me, please.

Love
ia

[dontco]

Dear IA56, I would define a person who is spiritually developed as one who has made a lot of progress in their spiritual path- a person who knows a lot about topics that are related to spiritualilty.
Namaste :)

[IA56]

Dear IA56, I would define a person who is spiritually developed as one who has made a lot of progress in their spiritual path- a person who knows a lot about topics that are related to spiritualilty.
Namaste :)

Hi doncto,
Okay, but how would you know?? What in you do you use to measure your knowing about like you said about me??
I am asking this because I am decived constantly by word´s and when I then investigate the users words they are just only words,
well rehersed but with no own experience what so ever...so what interests me is ...how do you do to know for sure about as you said about me...that you thought me to be spiritually developed....how did you do to say this??
To know about topics can be just studied spiritual writings, right?? I hope you feel my love for you, this is very interesting topic to talk about, I do not see this that often. You gave me this opportunity and I am sure it is or come from our HS. Thank you :-)

Love
ia

[dontco]

Dear IA56, I have seen your posts around the forum and- from reading them- I can see you are a very balanced and peaceful person- from the way you behave to others on the forum. I would say, first of all- that these are important qualities to those who practice spirituality and most people have to work very hard to get to a place where they can say they have these qualities. If you would like quotes- I could provide them too. Of course some would say the quotes don't necessarily prove your character- but I would say I'm a pretty good judge of character and I am rarely wrong- when I meet people face to face, anyway.
Secondly- I remember when in one of your posts you wrote about the fact a "light" messenger told you about the birth of a relative- and this is a very rare thing and this doesn't happen to anyone- so I will assume that the person who has had this experience must surely be very spiritualy gifted.
Thirdly- you always have insightful things to add to discussions that usually come from experience- and experience matters very much when it comes to spiritual development. Or at least the way I perceive spiritual development... But then again, you know yourself better than me, for sure, and you know the level of your own spiritual development better than myself, also, so perhaps I should not be giving you labels, you are right. Just wanted to give you a compliment, really :/

[IA56]

Dear IA56, I have seen your posts around the forum and- from reading them- I can see you are a very balanced and peaceful person- from the way you behave to others on the forum. I would say, first of all- that these are important qualities to those who practice spirituality and most people have to work very hard to get to a place where they can say they have these qualities. If you would like quotes- I could provide them too. Of course some would say the quotes don't necessarily prove your character- but I would say I'm a pretty good judge of character and I am rarely wrong- when I meet people face to face, anyway.
Secondly- I remember when in one of your posts you wrote about the fact a "light" messenger told you about the birth of a relative- and this is a very rare thing and this doesn't happen to anyone- so I will assume that the person who has had this experience must surely be very spiritualy gifted.
Thirdly- you always have insightful things to add to discussions that usually come from experience- and experience matters very much when it comes to spiritual development. Or at least the way I perceive spiritual development... But then again, you know yourself better than me, for sure, and you know the level of your own spiritual development better than myself, also, so perhaps I should not be giving you labels, you are right. Just wanted to give you a compliment, really :/

Thank you dear doncto,
I did not want to make you sad, or upset, I just wanted to you to give more substanced answere, I do feel your warmth and loving personality.
I have had a very long battle with authorities and I am so exhausted because of all negativity I have bean facing for a long time.
Your positive approach was like so different so you did rock my ground, and I had to check out the deep meaning of your writing.
Sorry if I did hurt you, it was not my intent.
Thank you from my whole heart, and I send you much love.

Love
ia

[dontco]

Dear IA... Don't worry about it! :) it's all good. Hope your battle with authorities will get better, as you deserve the best (the better people will treat each other, the better the world will become).
Namaste!

[IA56]

Dear IA... Don't worry about it! :) it's all good. Hope your battle with authorities will get better, as you deserve the best (the better people will treat each other, the better the world will become).
Namaste!

Thank you dear doncto :-)
Yes all will be good in the end :-)
But it can be tricky down the road before it get´s better :-)
I do not worry, but I do not like to make people sad or dissapointed if I can help....missunderstandings are so common and I with my bad communication skills ...huh...you see the wholness of me...:-)
I am happy to read your jokes here it does lighten up my mind a lot, thank´s all :-)

Love
ia