Article: Seeing through closed eyelids (not actual title).

[eyeoneblack]

I think this is interesting and others might also.

http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2013/10/dark-brain-sees/

I posted a comment but I don't know if it will pass moderation. Maybe.

[SiriusTraveler]

Interesting if the space is completely void of light.
I have seen through my eyelids when waking up from sleep, and it was more clear than anything I've tried in a dark room really. When seeing through my eyelids I saw everything pretty clear and there was this grey fog like edge around my vision. When
trying to see something in the dark, it is dark, but I can make out some kind of light movement like in the video. Its different. But perhaps both of the phenomenon are related to clairevoyance?

[eyeoneblack]

related to clairevoyance?
That's an angle worthy of thought!

I pretty much accept the premise of the article (that the brain maps hand movement) but I wasn't totally satisfied with it. Apparently the article is not being moderated for comments, but it seems to me that I have 'seen' objects as well. I used to call them 'astral appearance' in that what I saw wasn't really the shape of the physical object.

It just intrigues me....

[CFTraveler]

I think it's very interesting, and I've done 'experiments' testing this- I often see my own limbs with my eyes closed or in darkness, but not other things- but when I'm in trance, it's a whole different ballgame- so I think both things happen-one in trance, the other not necessarily.
I'm not a synesthete but for a few years (thanks to a karate class I took years ago) I kind of 'trained' myself to develop such qualities, and I think this can be induced. The brain is plastic so things like this can be developed, if one so wishes.

[SiriusTraveler]

Another theory would be that since, I believe, we create our own reality its possible that we create this energy as hands when trying to view them in the dark. We know they are there but our physical eyes cant see them so we create them. This can be thought forms perhaps, or something like this. Just a thought.

[eyeoneblack]

Wow, you're hot on this Sirius! I like that even more. :)

Could you possibly be a writer? If so, please see my thread in Out Of Topic, Any Sci-fi Writers....

[SiriusTraveler]

Haha thx :) Well no I'm not a writer but perhaps someday I'll put together some material based on my own observations in the spiritual world. Could use a good book in my native language actually. Still, its hard to top Roberts material. So much I agree with of his point of views.

[SiriusTraveler]

It might be that only when having closed eyelids, the phenomenon can be related to clairevoyance, and when having them open you are observing energy in a non-clairevoyant way so to speak. I'm thinking that clairevoyance is often or always connected to seeing things in or percieving with your minds eye. Hmm, but then when seeing auras with eyes open.. is that also a clairevoyant trait?
Well.. dribbles.