DNA test evidence for 'alien' species on Earth

[Sinera]

I find this fascinating. They DNA-sequenced it and now are even doing a complete scan. It seems to be 'alien' compared to any humanoid form discovered so far.

http://www.starchildproject.com/index.htm

DNA evidence:

http://www.starchildproject.com/dna2012.htm


"THE STARCHILD SKULL is a genuine 900-year-old bone skull found in Mexico in the 1930s. The Starchild Project is an informal organization which began in 1999 when Ray and Melanie Young, the owners of the Starchild Skull, asked Lloyd Pye to head research efforts to determine what caused the unusual shape and properties of the bone.The results uncovered by the research team ruled out all known deformities [click to read the report] (http://www.starchildproject.com/study2004.htm), and presented the scientific community with a genetic and physical profile never before seen on Earth. Now new DNA findings indicate that the Starchild Skull may well be “alien”! Now all that remains is to determine whether alien means “foreign to normal human genetics within the framework of that subject as it is currently understood,” or “definitely not from planet Earth”…. or something in between."

Check also more pages on this informative site countering some skeptic's claims that it is human (deformed child), including of course the 'impeccable expert editors' of the infallible almighty Wackypedia. ;)

Here's the most recent video with newest evidence from a specific gene sequence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzvqZFhQtpU

Here's more videos from YT, including a Coast to Coast interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzGuCAr2QSI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOSbRCg0B4g

[Sinera]

This is from Dr. Greer's blog. It is not about the starchild skull but another probable 'biological' ET body. Same topic, that's why I append it here. It is now examined in the same way as the Starchild skull by medical/anatomical experts and DNA specialists. This one is a 'whole' biological body though, with tissue, flesh bones and all that comes with it. So far they seem certain it is not any kind of human deformity or a fetal abortion (the most likely if not an alien) or an animal (ape or whatever) - but a 'real' ET. See links and quotes below.

Blog Entry October 2012: (http://drgreersblog.disclosureproject.org/?p=259)


After many weeks of travel, we are back to report that amazing results have been obtained from our study of the small possible ET body which was discussed in an earlier blog post.

Dr. Bravo, Emery Smith and I traveled to the country that is now home to this small possible ET body and were able to successfully obtain extensive X-Ray and CT Scans of the entire body. We were also able to obtain DNA samples under sterile, surgical conditions. These DNA samples are now being studied by one of the world’s top geneticists.

The X-Ray and CT scan show an intact, actual biological humanoid organism, without question. Astonishing 3-D images were able to be constructed of the body from the detailed CT scan, and we were able to see internal organs such as lungs and what I am fairly sure is a heart structure.
These images have just been examined by the world’s foremost authority on skeletal abnormalities, dysplasias and fetal skeletal syndromes and he has stated that this being is unlike any known skeletal structure found in humans. We also know that it is not an ancient hominid, and while humanoid, not apparently human.

Both this expert as well as the radiologist who is head of the imaging center where all X-rays and CTs were done have stated that the bone density precludes the body being that of a 20-22 week aborted human fetus. There is just too much calcium in the bone for this being to have been the result of a fetus of that age. Both doctors feel that the being was post-natal at the time of death (that is had lived for some time outside the womb, if indeed a womb is involved…).

The procedures for the DNA studies are complex and time-consuming. Literally the state-of-the-art technology available on earth will be brought to bear on this study, and the team of experts are without a doubt the most advanced and professional team that could possibly be assembled. The DNA studies will take around 2 months, and possibly longer.

We hope to provide some of these results, and the detailed CT and X-ray images, in the film Sirius. (See Sirius.Neverendinglight.com)

The STAR team has provided film footage of our trip including the examination and surgical procedures performed on the small being, as well as the CT scan and X-rays to the A. Kaleka and the Neverending Light team to use in the film Sirius.

We have also completed the Sirius Lecture Event in Santa Monica CA which was a great success and standing room only. A big thank you to all of you who came out to make that event a wonderful and historic event!

We have transferred to Neverending light hundred of UFO photos, video tapes, dozens of top-secret witness testimony and top-secret government documents as well as other materials for the film At this point there is enough evidence in hand for a 20 part series! We hope the film Sirius will be completed in December, 2012 and I will be further interviewed by NEL in November prior to our Contact expedition to the CA desert Nov. 10-17.

I would like to thank all of you for the enthusiastic support you have provided to this historic film project Sirius. Without you, none of this would be possible!

- Steven M. Greer MD

Earlier Blog Entry July 2012: (http://drgreersblog.disclosureproject.org/?m=201207)


BREAKING NEWS: URGENT

There is a chance that we may be able to include in the film “Sirius” the scientific testing of a possible Extraterrestrial Biological Entity (EBE) that has been recovered and is deceased. This EBE is in the possession of a cooperative institute desiring further scientific evaluation of the possible ET. We cannot reveal at this time the location of this being or the name of the person or persons who possess it.

Dr. Jan Bravo- who is a STAR Board member and a fellow Emergency Physician- and I have actually visited the group that possesses this EBE and have personally and professionally examined the being. It is indeed an actual deceased body, and most certainly is not plastic or man-made. It has a head, 2 arms and 2 legs and is humanoid . We have seen and examined X-Rays of the being. Its anatomy however is not homo sapien (modern human) or any known hominid (predecessors to humans).

As you can imagine, the security and scientific issues surrounding the further testing of this potentially explosive and world- changing evidence are mind-boggling. However, we feel we simply must proceed expeditiously but cautiously. The cost of doing proper MRI testing, full and dispositive forensic-level DNA testing and carbon dating with other isotope testing are considerable and certainly not currently funded. We must rule out other hominids, bizarre genetic defects and so forth. But it is most certainly an actual biological specimen – and it may be – well, what it looks like.

If you can assist further with funding the campaign for Sirius we will attempt to carry out this scientific inquiry, however daunting it may be. We are currently investigating what these costs will be, but they will certainly be in the tens of thousands of dollars and perhaps more.

Dr. Bravo, myself, Dr. Ted Loder, Professor Emeritus University of New Hampshire, and other scientists who wish to remain confidential will be doing the examinations and testing. A top DNA lab will be engaged for appropriate DNA evaluation.

The only reason I mention this sensitive matter at this time is that in order for this possible ET body to be properly evaluated and disclosed in “Sirius” – which is planned for completion in December 2012- we must act immediately. We will need your help with funding this and the rest of “Sirius”. And we cannot buy the safety and security that millions of people knowing about what we are doing can afford. Shadowy classified projects would prefer for us not to proceed, just as they wished that we not proceed with DisclosureProject.org (http://DisclosureProject.org) in 2001. But we did. And we are here to tell the tale because millions of people knew what we were doing well before that historic event.

You the public are our shield. You are our protectors, along with providence. While the testing will be confidential and done very discreetly until results are known- the fact that we are pursuing this evidence must be known by millions of people in order for us to be protected. Tell everyone you know-now.

The worst case scenario is that this being is not what it appears to be. But if it is: My God!

Please help us if you can.

- Steven M. Greer MD

[Sinera]

Here's another from the Starchild project, answering some of the critics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLA82DF5D90AF0CD7A&v=OvJkUzgkOh8&feature=player_embedded#!

[CFTraveler]

Lloyd Pye is very knowledgeable- I've read many of his columns in Fate mag.

[Sinera]

Lloyd Pye is very knowledgeable- I've read many of his columns in Fate mag.
Well, yes. But that does not mean that every of his conclusions are spot-on. I have now watched one of his talks. The first part is excellent in my opinion as it deals with the Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yeti sightings and aligns them with probable ancient humanoids (he hypothesises that they actually ARE those humanoids or at least their descendants). Considering the fact that almost up to 50% (still, but diminishing) or so of Earth's entire surface is still un'conquered' territory by humans this even makes some sense. It is a thrilling watch - especially the first part! - and therefore I recommend it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE

On the other hand, in the second part he seems to fully subscribe to Sitchin's Annunaki (genetically engineered human slaves for gold mining) theory and even connects it with chemtrailing in the end (! spreading gold in the atmosphere to stop global warming ..... :|)

This is where it gets a little dubious or even ludicrous to me and also highly speculative (but stated almost 'as fact' by him). In the end it gets better again with new developments in genetic research (still one should bear in mind this talk is from 1999). So, if you leave out the Annunaki-Sitchen hypothesis/lore it is still an excellent and interesting lecture, imv.

[LPCF]

Only just saw this thread. It looks like the end of 2012 will be an eye-opener - for the film "Sirius", and perhaps more...

I hadn't visited Dr. Greer's sites for a few days, so your updates here were much appreciated.

[CFTraveler]

I didn't mean I agree with him, I just find him very informed.
I also agree what you say about Sitchin, and many other interpretations of various other things (like pretty much all the Sitchin information, most cryptozoology, and many other things.
I remember I think it was him and Loren Coleman that used to debate about Bigfoot- I always saw it Coleman's way. (I'm talking ages ago, I have no idea if any of them write for Fate anymore. After my mom passed I kept forgetting to renew my subscription and it just dropped off my conscious awareness, but I used to enjoy it immensely.

[Sinera]

Here's an update from Greer's team:


We have been writing at some length about the research around the little 6″ Being. We are still awaiting results. The preeminent scientist who is doing the DNA testing has been keeping us informed of his progress and is now setting up his lab for the testing.

It is important for you to know how Dr. Greer’s mind works and why his evidence about the Extraterrestrial issue is so extraordinary. The work around this Being is an example. Years ago, Dr. Greer met with the principles at the Institute that has possession of this little Being. They spoke at length and described how it was found in the Atacama desert in South America and how people near where the Being was found spoke about seeing these Beings and egg shaped ET craft.

Dr. Greer put that information together with the testimony of Jonathan Weygandt who as a Marine was in that area at the site of a downed egg shaped ET craft. Both the film interview with Weygandt and his transcribed testimony have been provided to the filmmakers. Weygandt’s testimony is fascinating because not only was he right next to this craft that he describes as “shaped something between an egg and a teardrop”, “dynamic” and “really organic”, but he felt the occupants of the craft were trying to communicate with him. Extraordinary! And from a Marine! (You can read his testimony in “Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History”.)

It is Dr. Greer’s genius that he is able to put together credible testimony from disparate sources to create a more complete picture of the reality of ETs visiting planet earth. This complexity of information is what the STAR team is hoping to share with you in this film.

http://drgreersblog.disclosureproject.org/?p=276

So far, unfortunately no further update on the "Starchild skull". Did they find some obstacles? Or found out it's human after all? Unlikely for me as the DNA tests were out and obviously (so they say) do not relate to any human or animal species on this planet. Here's the latest from June:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5Z4QyDDOo&list=UUrTm4P9ST0Fo626B0OkhiTg& index=1

It seems that L. Pyes is doing the same as Greer's team and wants to do a theater movie too, which he is collecting funds for:

http://www.starchildproject.com/dna2011march.htm#10

[Sinera]

I've seen that this thread deserves an update on the Atacama Humanoid discovered by Dr. S. Greer featured in the movie Sirius of which I talked about. I saw this movie and can recommend it.

Although the scientist there said it is 'mainly' human DNS-wise, it's definitely an "unknown" variety of a human who without doubt lived and walked around (in that size!) and has some amount of unknown ('alien') DNA.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XjietgsBDY


We cannot say the Atacama Humanoid is an ET. Nor is he any known – or clinically conceivable – human that could have lived. So who is he? He remains a mystery, and perhaps- just perhaps- a doorway to discovering much about who we are.
Source: http://www.siriusdisclosure.com/evidence/atacama-humanoid/

I still believe it's a human-ET hybrid. Don't forget: This guy walked the Earth like this and is not an aborted fetus. An unknown humanoid species that roamed our Earth a long time ago (or not so long?) is another possibility. However, what do we know anyway about how prehistoric humanoids came about?

[Sinera]

The actual reason why I digged out this thread was a third installment:

After the "Starchild Skull" and the "Atacama Humanoid" we have the "Nephilim" Elongated Skulls from Peru now out with "shocking" preliminary DNA results.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/initial-dna-analysis-paracas-elongated-skull-released-incredible


The results of a DNA analysis of one of the skulls are now back, and Brien Foerster, author of more than ten books and an authority on the ancient elongated headed people of South America, has just revealed the preliminary results of the analysis. He reports on the geneticist's findings
It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans.


The implications are of course huge. “I am not sure it will even fit into the known evolutionary tree,” the geneticist wrote. He added that if the Paracas individuals were so biologically different, they would not have been able to interbreed with humans.

General info on these skulls (before the DNA-testing):
http://hiddenincatours.com/elongated-skulls-of-paracas-a-people-and-their-world/

An interview with the researcher a few days ago:


In this revealing interview, Brien Foerster sheds lights on DNA testing undertaken on one of the Paracas elongated skulls. More than 300 of these elongated skulls have already been found and physical features suggest that the skulls were not the result of head binding or head flattening practices.
Brien Foerster reveals new details about the recent genetic testing carried out on one of the Paracas skulls and what exactly the DNA analysis showed. He also shares his own theory about the findings and discusses what will happen now that this initial result has been announced.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qsj5QyB1bk

[CFTraveler]

I buy those more than the starchild skull because of the way the symphises are arranged showing that they are biological, adult and bigger than 'regular' human, not to mention the mostly human DNA. However, the report I read said the mDNA included Sapiens, along with the Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA. Tells me we have more 'alien' in us than we think.

[Sinera]

It seems I am 'by accident' be stumbling across these. But here's indeed a 4th installment of DNA testing for 'alien' or unknown humanoid species.

So here's the new one. May I introduce to you ...

HOMO SAPIENS COGNATUS

http://zoobank.org/NomenclaturalActs/40E2FA1F-10A1-4D42-8B02-A007347F1B43

;-):wacky1:

Testing was done by 8 different laboratories / institutions:

1 DNA Diagnostics, Texas
2 North Louisiana Criminalistics Laboratory
3 Integrated Forensic Laboratories, Inc. Texas
4 Southwestern Institute of Forensic Science
5 Texas A&M University, Microscopy & Imaging Center, Department of Biology and
Department of Biochemistry & Biophysics, College Station
6 Huguley Pathology Consultants, P.A., Ft. Worth
7 Helix Biological Laborator, Michigan
8 UNT Center for Human Identification, University of North Texas Health Science Center, Fort Worth

Here's the scientific article:
http://sasquatchgenomeproject.org/data/documents/Novel-North-American-Hominins-Final-PDF-download.pdf

More on the DNA studies:
http://sasquatchgenomeproject.org/view-dna-study/

Here's more about the project:
http://sasquatchgenomeproject.org/about-sgp/

Some articles:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2441231/Have-scientists-PROVED-Big-Foot-real-Team-unveils-results-FIVE-YEARS-research---say-DNA.html

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/another-human-hybrid-controversy-continues-one-year-later-001340


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816KxxNGhx8

Question to mod: I tried (since I am the OP) but did not succeed. Could we change the subject title to sth more general like:

DNA test evidence for 'alien' species on Earth

... or sth similar? thanks.

[Sinera]

... omg, if this is true ...


(...) there have been death threats leveled at scientists in the study, not to mention a pipe bomb that was detonated at a venue where Dr. Ketchum was scheduled to speak, further highlighting the fact that the implications of the study are so profoundly challenging to conventional perspectives that people are willing to take such extreme measures to protect their deep-rooted and preconceived notions. But one has to wonder, what is so polarizing about the presumptive proof of the existence of an extant human hybrid that precipitates such fervor?
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/another-human-hybrid-controversy-continues-one-year-later-001340

... as it is for countless other supposed cover-ups of controversial findings before, then this world and the mainstream academic 'elite' is more f...d up then we thought it is.

scary. :(

[CFTraveler]

Done. (Changed title as per OP)

[Sinera]

Done. (Changed title as per OP)

:thumbsup:

[John Sorensen]

It seems I am 'by accident' be stumbling across these. But here's indeed a 4th installment of DNA testing for 'alien' or unknown humanoid species.

So here's the new one. May I introduce to you ...

HOMO SAPIENS COGNATUS

http://zoobank.org/NomenclaturalActs/40E2FA1F-10A1-4D42-8B02-A007347F1B43

;-):wacky1:

Testing was done by 8 different laboratories / institutions:

1 DNA Diagnostics, Texas
2 North Louisiana Criminalistics Laboratory
3 Integrated Forensic Laboratories, Inc. Texas
4 Southwestern Institute of Forensic Science
5 Texas A&M University, Microscopy & Imaging Center, Department of Biology and
Department of Biochemistry & Biophysics, College Station
6 Huguley Pathology Consultants, P.A., Ft. Worth
7 Helix Biological Laborator, Michigan
8 UNT Center for Human Identification, University of North Texas Health Science Center, Fort Worth

Here's the scientific article:
http://sasquatchgenomeproject.org/data/documents/Novel-North-American-Hominins-Final-PDF-download.pdf

More on the DNA studies:
http://sasquatchgenomeproject.org/view-dna-study/

Here's more about the project:
http://sasquatchgenomeproject.org/about-sgp/

Some articles:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2441231/Have-scientists-PROVED-Big-Foot-real-Team-unveils-results-FIVE-YEARS-research---say-DNA.html

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/another-human-hybrid-controversy-continues-one-year-later-001340


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816KxxNGhx8

Question to mod: I tried (since I am the OP) but did not succeed. Could we change the subject title to sth more general like:

DNA test evidence for 'alien' species on Earth

... or sth similar? thanks.


Cool links, but where is Leonard Nimoy and the creepy music?

This reminds me of the Smithsonian cover up, for years they had skeletons of human "Giants" (8ft plus, much thicker skeletons) stored away, hidden from the public, dating back to the Biblical era.

a.k.a. Nephilim, Elioud, Sons of God, Demigods (hybrids, like the mythical Heracles)


Google "giants buried in mound" the top result at sott.net has a good summary article. These are giant humans FYI, not ape-men. Gotta love reductionistic Science and the way anything that disagrees with the establishment is violently denied and suppressed. As if the world is going to freak out because there were giants. I mean who would even be bothered by that in this day when we can watch giants from a beam of light on a magical screen, LOL. In the past they would call that witchcraft or demonic, now we call it entertainment.

[Sinera]

This reminds me of the Smithsonian cover up, for years they had skeletons of human "Giants" (8ft plus, much thicker skeletons) stored away, hidden from the public, dating back to the Biblical era.
Yeah, I love that topic too. Saw an interview lately with D. Hatcher Childress about some "egyptian" and/or "buddhistic" statues or mummy findings in a cave in the Grand Canyon area, which was then suppressed by the Smithsonians too. Cool stuff.


As if the world is going to freak out because there were giants. I mean who would even be bothered by that in this day when we can watch giants from a beam of light on a magical screen, LOL. In the past they would call that witchcraft or demonic, now we call it entertainment.

Everything that is somehow either paranormal or outside the dogmatic beliefs or especially which puts the neo-darwinist paradigm into peril must be fought. They don't want to look ridiculous when it is revealed that almost everything we were taught about history was probably ... well, not wrong ... but somehow different and incomplete. This is already a worst case as it also damages a lot of careers. When the believed dogma falls the reputation, fame and jobs might follow...

And yes, the entertainment industry is there for giants and all kinds of fantasies. We have it all in order in our world, do we? :mrgreen: Most people still want to live in their dream world instead of waking up and realising that their dream world is actually not so different from this dream world matrix (or its past) we call waking life. ;)

[CFTraveler]

I do understand that when people get some sort of power and credibility it goes to their heads, but when I was a student of anthropology we all knew that what we knew was incomplete and probably wrong in the details.
I'm just sayin'.
BTW, my undergraduate thesis (in archaeology/anthropology) was in the Hindu Valley civilizations, something that was pretty 'regular' in the field at the time, but for some reason is now considered 'forbidden' archaeology in conspiracy circles. I guess perspective is everything.

[John Sorensen]

Yeah, I love that topic too. Saw an interview lately with D. Hatcher Childress about some "egyptian" and/or "buddhistic" statues or mummy findings in a cave in the Grand Canyon area, which was then suppressed by the Smithsonians too. Cool stuff.



Everything that is somehow either paranormal or outside the dogmatic beliefs or especially which puts the neo-darwinist paradigm into peril must be fought. They don't want to look ridiculous when it is revealed that almost everything we were taught about history was probably ... well, not wrong ... but somehow different and incomplete. This is already a worst case as it also damages a lot of careers. When the believed dogma falls the reputation, fame and jobs might follow...

And yes, the entertainment industry is there for giants and all kinds of fantasies. We have it all in order in our world, do we? :mrgreen: Most people still want to live in their dream world instead of waking up and realising that their dream world is actually not so different from this dream world matrix (or its past) we call waking life. ;)


It really comes down to producing a brainwashed homogenized culture that can't be bothered questioning things, because they have no real interest in them. Any intelligent person knows that there is more than we DON'T know about our worlds history and ancient civilizations, and cultural practices than we DO know.

The people who suppress this stuff look more and more ridiculous given how much free information is available today, and actual evidence of things even 30 years ago we could only guess might be true.

In a world where we have dinosaur skeletons in museums, if they bust out ancient giants, kids and their families would be lining up around the block to see that. Even the religious zealots would be like "SEE, the bible IS literal truth, now burn in hell for displaying these ABOMINATIONS you heathens, but first get me a ticket and a diet Coke, that line is really long...."

[John Sorensen]

I do understand that when people get some sort of power and credibility it goes to their heads, but when I was a student of anthropology we all knew that what we knew was incomplete and probably wrong in the details.
I'm just sayin'.
BTW, my undergraduate thesis (in archaeology/anthropology) was in the Hindu Valley civilizations, something that was pretty 'regular' in the field at the time, but for some reason is now considered 'forbidden' archaeology in conspiracy circles. I guess perspective is everything.

I think part of it is that once you are entrenched in a certain paradigm, and you've been at it for 30+ years, well that is your meal ticket, there are many folks who would like to speak out, but when Big Brother says:

"Don't talk about all the cool secret ♥♥♥♥ we got stashed in the basement, and hey what are doing, DON'T look behind the curtain..er..ah.."

Well I think a lot of people at that point have families to support and bills to pay. Few are really willing to lose their entire career, livelihood and be defamed and barred from working in similar jobs just so "joe public" can hear some stuff they probably already heard about on the internet or from some conspiracy minded friend like Dale on King of the Hill.

Especially in the US where they can throw people in jail/prison for crossing the street, wearing the wrong coloured socks, curing people of incurable diseases, questioning authority etc.

[Sinera]

Update in small (microscopic actually):

This time it is an 'ancient, alien & giant' virus from permafrost, from 30.000 years ago in Siberia. DNA unknown for the most part. It is scary to imagine how they might slowly begin to open Pandora's box with this.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/ancient-virus-recovered-permafrost-has-genes-not-found-earth-001420

(http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/ancient-virus-recovered-permafrost-has-genes-not-found-earth-001420)
“When we find more and more of those giant viruses it seems to point to some kind of multiple origin of life other than only a single one because they are made of totally different genetic material in a way and so we really wonder where that is coming from. We don’t see any trace of common history” - Professor Jean-Michel Claverie, National Centre of Scientific Research