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Ephemerid
4th January 2012, 09:16 PM
Hi everyone...

I have some questions. I've been trying OBE for almost 9 years and I've many experiences. But there are things that I can't understand. And I need answers.

First of all; I feel pressure in my forehead when I concentrate. It takes only 5-10 seconds to reach that point. After 20-30 seconds, I feel a pressure in my teeth. And after 2-3 minutes, a pressure on my chest. I can't find the reason of this pressure. I don't know what am I going to do whit it either? Should I see a doctor? If your answer is "No" then let me finish. Because it gets worse.

Half an hour later, the pressure gets so tense that makes me believe my skull and my teeth are going to blow up. Or like someone sitting on my chest.

After 2-3 hours later, when I almost lost my consciousness, I feel like an intense energy is trying to get out of my body through my mouth. A pure white energy. I see things, hear things but I'm not able to open my eyes or move my body.

At this point I feel like I'm flying (it freaks me out because I can't tell if I'm really flying or not). But unfortunately this energy couldn't get out completely. It stucks in my throat.

So, any idea?

CFTraveler
4th January 2012, 09:59 PM
Hi everyone... Hi Ephemerid. I will try to answer some of your questions.


I have some questions. I've been trying OBE for almost 9 years and I've many experiences. But there are things that I can't understand. And I need answers.

First of all; I feel pressure in my forehead when I concentrate. It takes only 5-10 seconds to reach that point. After 20-30 seconds, I feel a pressure in my teeth. And after 2-3 minutes, a pressure on my chest. I can't find the reason of this pressure. I don't know what am I going to do whit it either? Should I see a doctor? If your answer is "No" then let me finish. Because it gets worse. I would ask you a few questions- first of all, does this happen when you are going to sleep? For example, say you are not really trying to meditate or project, and you lay down. If you try to stay aware as you relax, do these things happen?
The second question is, what position are you in when you do this?
And finally, what process do you to do meditate? Are you doing specific breathing exercises, energy work, or are you simply staring into the void with your eyes closed?
The answer to these may help with following the pressure you are feeling.



After 2-3 hours later, when I almost lost my consciousness, I feel like an intense energy is trying to get out of my body through my mouth. A pure white energy. I see things, hear things but I'm not able to open my eyes or move my body. Three hours is a long time! At this point you are usually in deep trance and paralyzed, which is normal. The things you see (and hear) are hypnagogics, a normal process in the transition to nonphysical. Here (http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?3522-Your-First-Conscious-Projection) is a thread that may give you more information about transitional sensations.


At this point I feel like I'm flying (it freaks me out because I can't tell if I'm really flying or not). But unfortunately this energy couldn't get out completely. It stucks in my throat.

So, any idea? Yes, most of your symptoms are normal. Even the pressure may be muscle tension, your chakras activating, energy blocks or awareness of this, but any discomfort in your heart area (like palpitations) should be checked by a doctor, you should not be in pain.
Other than that, a change of position and possibly energy work may help with some of those sensations.

iadnon
4th January 2012, 10:39 PM
The forehead pressure is something very common. Every time I visualize something in my head (even when I'm out of inner work) I feel the pressure. I've tried to get to the brink of something, but I've been unable to go farther (maybe some strobe?).

There's another interesting thing I suffered from. When I was trying to relax (as when phasing), I had some sorts of microtensions in my muscles, specially the neck area, and it was nearly impossible to get to anywhere. The trick was not to focus on my muscles, but on the darkness in front of my eyes (I was taught about that right in this forum), and it worked.

Beekeeper
5th January 2012, 09:26 AM
Would you describe yourself as a tense, possibly anxious person? Do you spend a lot of time sitting for work or study and bent over books or a computer? It may be you are just extremely tense and need to stretch, unwind and possibly supplement your diet.

What is your skeletal structure like? Do you have spinal problems like scoliosis? Have you had braces on your teeth in the past or do you have a misaligned jaw? Do you use orthopodic inserts in your shoes? A little problem in one place often leads to tension elsewhere. You may well benefit from a visit to a bodyworker and some yoga or therapeutic pilates.

Aunt Clair
8th January 2012, 10:14 AM
One thing to consider is TMJ ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporomandibular_joint_disorder

johnnytheswede
8th January 2012, 04:51 PM
Just throwing in 2 cents here, I have felt some kind of pressure in my mouth/nose area twice (on two different nights, two different lucid dreams) when employing an exit-technique from within a lucid dream in which I thought, "hey, I'm dreaming, I'll do an exit right now."

Ephemerid
8th January 2012, 06:53 PM
Thank you all for your answers.

Dear CFTraveler.


I would ask you a few questions- first of all, does this happen when you are going to sleep? For example, say you are not really trying to meditate or project, and you lay down. If you try to stay aware as you relax, do these things happen?

Thought of meditating triggers the pressure. Usually I go bed an hour early to meditate, it happens then mostly. On the other hand, it happens whenever I want. Sometimes it happens by itself but just calming myself makes the pressure go away. I think it's not something out of my control. (By the way, the pressure in the chest doesn't happen in daily life, just happens when I go to sleep).



The second question is, what position are you in when you do this?

It happens in any position. Surely, it is more tense when I'm lying down.



And finally, what process do you to do meditate? Are you doing specific breathing exercises, energy work, or are you simply staring into the void with your eyes closed?

I'm just trying to control my energy.
If you want to hear my story, let me summarize.
First time it happened when I was trying to see the auras. Back then, it was hard to feel that pressure and for that I have to mediate for a long time. I was doing all of those exercises; Breathing exercises, autohypnosis, staring objects and trying to see their energies (funny, they never move (: ). But now, I don't have to do any of this exercises to feel that pressure in my forehead and in my teeth. It can happen even if I'm running.

CFTraveler
8th January 2012, 06:57 PM
If you are feeling heart area pressure when you are running, please get that checked out by a doctor- if you're cleared in that dept, then I think everyone else gave you excellent advice.

Ephemerid
8th January 2012, 07:05 PM
Thank your for your answer Beekeeper

Would you describe yourself as a tense, possibly anxious person? Do you spend a lot of time sitting for work or study and bent over books or a computer? It may be you are just extremely tense and need to stretch, unwind and possibly supplement your diet.
Yes, I may say I'm a little bit anxious person and yes I spend a lot of time sitting in front of a computer or to reading books.



What is your skeletal structure like? Do you have spinal problems like scoliosis? Have you had braces on your teeth in the past or do you have a misaligned jaw? Do you use orthopodic inserts in your shoes?
I may have spinal problems. I haven't checked yet. The answers of your other questions is no. Would you mind if I ask you how these things related with the pressure?

Ephemerid
8th January 2012, 07:12 PM
If you are feeling heart area pressure when you are running, please get that checked out by a doctor- if you're cleared in that dept, then I think everyone else gave you excellent advice.
I'm sorry if I haven't explain myself clearly. English is not my native language.
I'm feeling the pressure in my heart area only when I'm in deep sessions. I can feel the pressure only in my forehead when I'm running.

SiriusTraveler
9th January 2012, 06:39 AM
I also have a throbbing sensation with some pressure sensations in my brow chacra region. It can come spontaneously or when I'm meditating. When I did more energy work before, it was more frequent. So I feel that its more of a energy work issue for me.. or not an issue as in a bad thing really. Because it have'nt bothered me at all. I just feelhappy to feel anything at all, it lets me know that something is going on.

Korpo
10th January 2012, 08:00 PM
Hello, Ephemerid.

You were saying that initially this reaction was pronounced only after a long and intense practice session. Now, after having practiced regularly for weeks or months, the sensation comes up quickly and more pronounced. Do I understand that correctly, yes?

Usually practice itself causes two things to change: The amount of energy you're being able to move around and your ability to feel energy moving.

More energy circulating through your system while practicing will have bigger effect on blocks. Imagine a pipe that is partially blocked. Now imagine moving more water through the pipe. What you get is higher pressure. Energy blocks cause unpleasant sensations, energy circulating without much blockage cause comparatively little sensation. So your sensations seem to indicate that you have energy blocks in the respective areas, and when your practice stimulates energy circulation you notice the blockages more strongly because a higher energetic pressure builds in these areas.

On the other hand, also with continued practice, the ability to feel energetic sensations is also improved. More energy flow and this enhanced sensitivity lead to noticing energetic blocks more strongly.

While unpleasant sensations during energy work may happen while energetic blocks are wore down, you should be careful and gentle when you encounter pain or other alarming symptoms. In this case try to practice less intensely in a session and have more sessions instead. This applies to energy work in general.

Energy blocks in the head - third eye, nasal-eye bridge, the facial area, may be due to factors like trying too hard to concentrate, putting too much time into mental endeavours without counter-balancing them, etc. Wherever your attention goes, your energy goes. Staring at a screen for too long, or being "too much in one's head" very often, many of these activities create tension in the head, for example also by making the neck tense and blocking smooth energy circulation. Also anxious worry might cause one to be locked into one's own thoughts, and hence the head.

Counterbalancing such behaviors with other activities, gentle energy work, sports, all grounding activities, plus checking out all the things Beek mentioned might all help.

What type of meditation are you doing? It might be helpful to switch meditation object as well. For example watching the breath at the nostrils worked really badly for me because I had blocks in the nasal, eye and forehead areas.

Ephemerid
12th April 2012, 07:55 PM
Thank you for your answer Korpo.

Your indication to the energy blocks makes sense and I think it is what I'm going through. What should I do in this situation, I would appreciate if you can give me some advice.


What type of meditation are you doing?
I don't know what kind of meditation type I'm doing. I'm sorry but I don't have enough knowledge to answer this question. When I'm meditating I'm just thinking some objects out of my room or just focusing to the energy that I feel on my facial area.

PauliEffect
15th April 2012, 04:20 PM
Thought of meditating triggers the pressure. Usually I go bed an hour early to meditate, it happens then mostly. On the other hand, it happens whenever I want. Sometimes it happens by itself but just calming myself makes the pressure go away. I think it's not something out of my control. (By the way, the pressure in the chest doesn't happen in daily life, just happens when I go to sleep).
Seems you get it when you place _intent_ to meditate?

I get something similar, a pain in my head, back or neck. When I meditate, laying down and put intent to experience something astral, it sometimes can increase, but most of the time the pain lessens.

I put intent to be open to anything and accept it happen, OBE, projection, doing retrieval, being eaten by a non-physical monster, sending PUL to any scary entity, letting them invade me, accepting them, accepting any energy which is sent to me, absorbing it, accepting goose bump energy waves (physically), requesting any changes my guides want to do to me non-physically, etc.

This seems to lessens the problem, even if it in the start can increase some pain. I even got the question if I want to continue "because it will be very painful". I just said yes and accepted it. Facing fear, facing any monster, looking closely at it, sending the monster Love, Acceptance or whatever positive I can, I think most of those monsters are only my own parts, my own fears.

Hope this helps you.

Ephemerid
15th April 2012, 05:20 PM
Thank your for your answer PauliEffect.

I believe my situation is a bit different. I'm not afraid any kind of thing when I'm meditating. I feel no fear. The thing is that when I'm meditating and when I feel that pressure I feel like I have reached the end of my limits. I can't push more. But also I can feel that I'm not far from what is waiting for me beyond that pressure. It's just I can't get through that layer.
I want to believe there is something worth to try but I don't think I'm on the right path, I'm doing something wrong. The question is what is the right path then?

CFTraveler
15th April 2012, 06:45 PM
The right path is the path that causes some sort of effect, without pain or discomfort. Remember the golden rule of energy work- if it gets uncomfortable of painful, stop, take a break and when you feel you're ready start (or continue) again.


I want to believe there is something worth to try IMO you shouldn't have to believe anything- you try something and see what you get out of it- don't start with preconceived notions of what you're 'supposed' to get- do something and then see what results you get.

Korpo
15th April 2012, 07:40 PM
Perserverance and pushing too much are two differing degrees of the same continuum.

Perserverance is when you continue practicing even if some discomfort arises. Pushing too much occurs when you don't stop when you encounter severe discomfort or pain.

While some perserverance might be needed, pushing is seldom the answer. Whatever you feel might be attainable through pushing will eventually be yours anyway if you don't push but respect your own limits. There's no need to push. If you keep your practice routine results will come your way. Just give it more time.

AstralCody
16th April 2012, 03:38 AM
Funny, right when I saw this topic my brow chakra started pulsating.