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xChris12
12th July 2011, 05:12 AM
Hmm interesting..?:angry:

Dead timeline. That's right. Because you searched too far into my dead past ^_^. What is this bull♥♥♥♥? Why?

Korpo
12th July 2011, 05:45 AM
Hello, xChris12.

Muscle twitches in your legs are signs of energy blocks in the legs. During trance and the pre-OBE state the energy circulation in the energy body picks up. When this increased energy flow runs up against blocks, it triggers spasms, sensations (for example irritation) and so on.

Moving into a trance can often be accompanied by a feeling of being slightly numb to the body, like covered in warm fluff, and/or a drifting sensation. This is a typical state right before falling asleep or before fully waking up that might prove more helpful for you. It occurs naturally and is very closely related to the mind awake/body asleep state so often sought when practicing for OBE.

As for what you can actively do, besides regular energy work, it would surely be helpful to do some regular trance training. For example with Robert's methods, but I also found HemiSync and training to get into "Focus 10" very helpful in this regard.

It's not possible to tell how long it will take till you see results. Surely, the twitches already indicate heightened energy flow, and the swaying could indicate that a suitable trance could not be too far off.

Cheers,
Oliver

CFTraveler
12th July 2011, 02:16 PM
I have tried multiple nights and early morning in a row but am unable to achieve full sleep paralysis and my hands only get tingly my feet do not. Can you tell us what techniques do you use, describe your exit attempt?

Also sometimes I also feel slighty like I am swaying back and forth. This can be considered an exit sensation- 'go' with the swaying and you may find yourself being flung away from your body.

Does anyone have any experience or advice for this issues? I also have random muscle twitches in my legs As Korpo already said, this can be because of energy blocks, but it can also be the normal twitching people get when they are falling asleep. If it is a problem it would indicate that you are too focused on body sensations- try to focus in what you see and hear instead of what you feel in your body.

CFTraveler
12th July 2011, 02:54 PM
You don't have to clear your mind of thoughts, just verbal thoughts. Try doing breathing exercises to occupy your mind until you are very very relaxed, and if you still find yourself distracted, do some trance exercises or some other type of meditation (mantras, whatever you like) to keep you distracted. If you have a song stuck in your head that doesn't remind you of something that happened the last time you heard it, then it's ok to just listen to it, but if it does remind you of something then try the mantra or the trick of listening of your earhiss- this will also keep you focused on observing/listening and may distract you from body sensations.

Korpo
12th July 2011, 06:23 PM
Focus 10: http://www.explorations-in-consciousness.com/focus10.html

A mantra is a sound, syllable or set of syllables or words you repeat over and over, either out loud or in your mind. They can mean something, there are many that have sacred meaning. Repeating a mantra is a yoga technique to train and keep the mind focussed on something without distraction. It's both practiced in Hindu and Buddhist Yoga traditions. "Om" or "A-umm" is supposed to be such a sacred sound.

CFTraveler
12th July 2011, 06:28 PM
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantra) should explain what a mantra is, but for our purposes, a mantra is any word or sound that you repeat over and over that has no association with anything relating to your normal life which keeps your attention 'busy'. Using 'classic' Hindu Mantras (such as Om Mani Padme Om or Sat Nam, for example) is helpful because not being Indian, you don't have to associate them with anything, although the original intent for these words were otherwise (as the Wiki article will tell you.)
Some people project on their sides, I don't like to, I tend to bilocate when I do this due to comfort issues.
Just remember that part of the trick with projection is to be comfortable enough to go into a deep trance, but not so comfortable that you pass out.
For example, I sleep on my sides, but I project on a very comfortable recliner.

CFTraveler
13th July 2011, 03:41 PM
I already answered this: If the music doesn't cause you to remember stuff from your life (i.e. associations) then it's perfectly ok

GRANT
15th July 2011, 01:14 AM
Hi,
Sometimes one is trying too hard. Trying to remember the steps, the sequence; wondering if you're doing it right.
Don't worry. Just relax. Let yourself sink into the bed or chair. Notice your breathing, but don't dwell on it. Lie quietly and just breathe and sink down--down--down, if your mind wanders, let it, just keep breathing in and out--the trance will come sooner or later--if not today, maybe tomorrow--don't worry.
Grant

Ariel
15th July 2011, 02:19 AM
I have tried multiple nights and early morning in a row but am unable to achieve full sleep paralysis and my hands only get tingly my feet do not. Also sometimes I also feel slighty like I am swaying back and forth. Does anyone have any experience or advice for this issues? I also have random muscle twitches in my legs

Try to let go of those sensations, they are only distractions.

CFTraveler
21st July 2011, 04:43 PM
Sure- If things stop and you think it's over, get up and walk around- do not roll over and go to sleep. You may find that it all stopped because you already transitioned into the nonphysical but haven't moved away yet.
So getting up and walking around is a way to test this.

Dudebilly
22nd July 2011, 08:27 PM
Hey, ive had the same problems. So far, every time ive tried to have an OBE, like last night (Probably the closest ive ever come to projecting) I went to bed a bit earlier to try and project before my brother got in bed (Bunk bed) and break me of my focus. I started to relax, and focus on relaxing, just quieting my mind and sinking into a deep relaxation. I know I was getting extremely relaxed, my mind was quiet, and I decided to try to use the rope method of exiting. I have never gotten into sleep paralysis before, so like always I just guessed that I was already mind awake body asleep. My feet and legs were going numb, painful, by the way, and I wanted to shift them and wake them up, but I didn't so i wouldnt lose focus. The rope technique didn't work, rolling out didn't work, and going with the rocking sensation didnt work either (although the rocking sensation was the strongest and most persistant it ever was, it just kept going). Then everything just, stopped. I gave into moving around, breaking my focus, and went to sleep. (I had been trying for 2 hours, with no results, I checked the time before I went to sleep.) Any advice?

CFTraveler
22nd July 2011, 08:45 PM
Hey Dudebilly.
If you were having physical pain and felt the need to shift your legs, you were close, but not close enough. In this case go ahead and move, and then go into a trance meditation, and go on from there. Don't do the rope technique until your mind is so dissociated from your body you are not even aware of it. Try to look for the type of symptom that does not require body awareness to try to gauge whether you're ready to exit (sounds, things you see, a change in consciousness) and then try an exit technique, such as rope. But if it doesn't work, don't decide you're done- go back to trance, and when ready, try something else- there are many types of exit techniques in the OBE R & D forum.