Temple Mount Jerusalem

[Sinera]

is it a fake? filmed 3 times from different people and sides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K3Ih-o4qiQ&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/01/jeru ... mount.html (http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/01/jerusalem-ufo-ufo-over-temple-mount.html)

skeptics (of course) say it is faked, one of them argues that the time frame of the landing, hovering, lifting Orb does not coincide with that of the other films

what do you think?

[CFTraveler]

I don't think it's a CGI because it was shot from many locations (unless the filmers knew each other and it was part of the same hoax) However, what makes me think that it was faked was that the man in the last one said "Whoa!" Before the object flew up into the air, telling me that he was anticipating it.
So, although I think it was very clever, I think it was a hoax.

[Sinera]

... what makes me think that it was faked was that the man in the last one said "Whoa!" Before the object flew up into the air, telling me that he was anticipating it.

I am also not sure about this.

However, what you say, the "whoa" is not a reaction to the re-start, but a reaction to the flash coming supposedly from the UFO/Orb before it goes up again.

It's first the flash, then the "wow", then the dot flies up again, then "shuuh..."

look again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ#t=0m51

[Neil Templar]

nah! fake!
i saw this when it was first posted, and wasn't sure, but the first one you posted says it all for me. the guys don't seem at all surprised when this object begins to fall towards the ground. surely they'd be freaking out, or at least excited??!!

[Sinera]

nah! fake!
i saw this when it was first posted, and wasn't sure, but the first one you posted says it all for me. the guys don't seem at all surprised when this object begins to fall towards the ground. surely they'd be freaking out, or at least excited??!!

but maybe they have seen it flying and stopping at that point before, what you see is only when they started pointing their cams at it? that is possibly why they were not "too" surprised when it started to sink again. Just a theory, also, you never know how excited or calm people react when they see such a thing.

Here's one who also compares the two (made from the same platform) and claims that they are synchronous (unlike a "debunker" who claimed it is not..) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOf4qVMIg7k

but maybe it is also faked, or the debunkers fake their films, or they fake sth in it to prove that you can fake this, no one sees clear anymore :? ... but I think observing these youtube hypes is funny to see how these two parties always react and battle each other :)

(I don't want to defend this as non-fake, cuz I am not sure myself. Of course, it could be fake. What makes it mostly improbable to me actually is the religionist connotation - ufos landing above the temple mount which has significance for all 3 major Western monotheist world religions - wow, what a story... and some users or posters already start to cite holy scriptures ... well ... this is when UFO phenomena get ridiculously abused , in my view..)

[CFTraveler]

Plus, many channelers have announced that the 'evil ETs' were going to do just this before the final attack or takeover or whatever you call it. So if I were an evil ET, I wouldn't do what my potential victims already knew I was going to do..... you get my drift.
Maybe I'm too jaded for this- but I was already expecting such a stunt in this same place, only on 2012. They overshot the show, or this was just a dry run.

[Neil Templar]

hmmm, you know the more i look at these, the less sure i am.
and then something came to mind today, about a channeling i read recently, talking about "stargates", and mentioning the Temple Mount as having one underneath...
i wish i could remember where i saw/heard that... ahhh,it's probably fake!!! :lol: :roll:

[natalie-1984]

do you think 2012 will have a lot more fake stuff going on? Do you guys think some people will go kind of nuts?

[ButterflyWoman]

do you think 2012 will have a lot more fake stuff going on? Do you guys think some people will go kind of nuts?
Some people went totally nuts over the Y2K panic. I have no doubt there will be people who do the same for the 2012 non-event (and yes, I wholly expect it to be a non-event, just as Y2K was a non-event, and every other doomsday/ascension/awakening/dawning of some great age/whatever has been a non-event).

[Neil Templar]

yeah i know one dude who's so sure the world's gonna crack open and tsunamis are gonna hit every shore, he's planning a trip to the himalayas!
Doh!
didn't he watch the movie? :wink:

[ButterflyWoman]

he's planning a trip to the himalayas!
Because nothing bad can possibly happen in the world's highest, most rugged mountain range. ;)

[CFTraveler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGbi0StY ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGbi0StYWaI&feature=related)

[Neil Templar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu4ri2GozIY

3 of the videos synched...

[newfreedom]

do you think 2012 will have a lot more fake stuff going on? Do you guys think some people will go kind of nuts?

Yeah probably Natalie, but it's a bit late for me, i did my 'kind of go nuts' thing already, in Spring 2006, and been healing out of it since then..... so i'm not expecting it to reverse just because it's the FAMOUS year 2012..... just have to wait and see how things play out i guess

But i like what i heard Barabara Marciniak say once, 'You know everyone keeps asking me, What's going to happen Barbara in 2012 ? And i say to them... Well that depends....it's up to YOU...'


This is from memory, so forgive me if it's not totally accurate, i do have the audio tape somewhere, if i come across it i can ammend my quote here if necessary... :)

[CFTraveler]

I think people are already going nuts, and feel justified creating havoc because 2012 is coming. Like riots when things seem unfair. Then it's ok to destroy whatever is there and hurt whoever is there.

[Serpentarius]

do you think 2012 will have a lot more fake stuff going on? Do you guys think some people will go kind of nuts?

I predict mass suicides of people who want to ascend to higher planes of existence. :?
I predict a lot of fake stuff happening so there can be a pretence of something going on. :?
I predict that after 2012 there will be another date chosen for a shift of awareness/end of the world/alien invasion, and this time the date is going to be the 'correct' one, for sure ;)

[newfreedom]

do you think 2012 will have a lot more fake stuff going on? Do you guys think some people will go kind of nuts?

Yeah probably Natalie, but it's a bit late for me, i did my 'kind of go nuts' thing already, in Spring 2006, and been healing out of it since then..... so i'm not expecting it to reverse just because it's the FAMOUS year 2012..... just have to wait and see how things play out i guess

But i like what i heard Barbara Marciniak say once, 'You know everyone keeps asking me, What's going to happen Barbara in 2012 ? And i say to them... Well that depends....it's up to YOU...'


This is from memory, so forgive me if it's not totally accurate, i do have the audio tape somewhere, if i come across it i can ammend my quote here if necessary... :)


Hi

I found the tape with Barbara's message about 2012, and thought i would share it, since my memory and my earlier comment on the subject didn't do it justice. It was recorded on 30/09/01, in Shrewsberry, UK. - i attended this seminar (and i've attended some of Barbara's other seminars in the UK. aswell, she's wonderful, as too are the P's she channels , always a delight and an evolving experience for me xX)

Barbara says:
'People always want to know what's going to happen in 2012, you know it's up to us. And because we're in probable worlds, it's the old Heisenberg principle, ok. Heisenberg principle is based on uncertainty,......uncertainty, there is no, no predestined definitive reality that we have to be in. Heisenberg's principle is that, that anything can affect anything at any moment'........ (the talk continues)