Fire in the body and a surge of love in the heart (Copy)

[brotherethan]

[EDIT: This thread is an edited copy of the original, which can be found in the Kundalini forum. Editing was to remove some of the more off-topic stuff, but it is to be hoped that it still makes some sense as a discussion.]

Does anyone wake up after an intense night of prayer/meditation with a feeling of burning in your body, as if you are being purified to the very essence.
Also has anyone k-awakened fell a surge of love and joy flowing out of your heart, it seems the kundalini has just made it up to my heart, I've heard that the heart is where God resides?

[CFTraveler]

Does anyone wake up after an intense night of prayer/meditation with a feeling of burning in your body, as if you are being purified to the very essence. Yes, many years ago when I was a teenager. It was from this experience that I 'realized' that God is everywhere present, and always available. This in turn has helped me in more ways than I can count.

Also has anyone k-awakened fell a surge of love and joy flowing out of your heart, it seems the kundalini has just made it up to my heart, I've heard that the heart is where God resides? I don't know if I'm K-awakened (I've been told I am) but I believe that because the heart is where you feel love, so "The Spark of God" or Christ Presence has been attributed to be in the heart center. I personally believe God is everywhere and everything, not in 'one' place in the body, physical or nonphysical, but I do agree that both the heart center and the crown center are places where the experience of God can be felt.
Just my opinion, obviously.

[Tutor]

Hi Ethan,

well, my first reply was all about 'feeling' your way, as opposed to reasoning the way. my 2nd reply was a 'whatever' that spontaneously erupted into the thread.

it is your thread, and you are plenty gifted to feel your way through it. i will keep it down then. but your original post up there is wonderfully stated. if my 'stuff' dont fit into the scheme, it is ok. no worrys Ethan.

tim

[niki123]

Yes,that could be it! It happened to me and it went on and on for over 3 years until life happened and because of some people I was forced to deal with, I was taught that some people really take advantage and we have to be carefull because we mirror and by that I mean that we reflect our love for everyone and we see the other person as good when in fact they are not,especially psychopats and unscrupulous people.


Does anyone wake up after an intense night of prayer/meditation with a feeling of burning in your body, as if you are being purified to the very essence.
Also has anyone k-awakened fell a surge of love and joy flowing out of your heart, it seems the kundalini has just made it up to my heart, I've heard that the heart is where God resides?

[Tutor]

emotions are merely neutralities of honest emergence of you as living, and living as an assertion of feeling life.

love is inescapable, for in and of it you are. one might think to spurn love, yet love is unmovable as it sustains your being, and meets you in kind as per your thoughts to it.

if one approaches this as the upstart unruly child then one should be prepared for a Mother charged to bring them into line. yet, this affair can be as intimate as one would surrender to it as allowance. as the child matures, it enters into the arena of adult inter-relations, just as it is in the world, as partnering. this partnering within.

sumptin like dat...

tim

[brotherethan]

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[Tutor]

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[ButterflyWoman]

Does anyone wake up after an intense night of prayer/meditation with a feeling of burning in your body, as if you are being purified to the very essence.
I haven't in a while, but I used to.

For me, a lot of the "experientialist" and "sensationalist" things have all but stopped. I do still get waves of almost excruciating bliss, but they're not as all-encompassing as they used to be, mostly because I'm used to them.


Also has anyone k-awakened fell a surge of love and joy flowing out of your heart
Yes, and when the awareness of that is present, I make an effort to consciously allow it to flow.


I've heard that the heart is where God resides?
God resides everywhere, in my experience, but I think we are more aware of God when we can feel that which we call love.

And speaking of that, it's my observation that this thing we call "love" is actually just our somewhat limited interpretation of what amounts to being the "highest frequency" energy of which we can be aware (there may be things that are higher, but just as we can't see ultraviolet light, we can't know if there are yet higher frequencies of energy because we haven't got the appropriate receptors).

(Pardon my rather strained words; I'm trying to find words that will be understandable but the fact is, there are no words to adequately describe this, so I'm having to use somewhat strange terms. Language is very limiting; just try to look to the thing I'm attempting to describe, and not to the words I'm so awkwardly using to try to describe it.)

I've been working with this energy we call "love" (for lack of a better term) for a long time now, and I find it quite challenging. It requires that when the awareness of bliss is upon you, you actually channel it into something, and that's very difficult. The other challenge is to call upon that energy when you're not consciously aware of the presence of love/bliss, of course.

When I can manage it, however, I find that I can elicit extraordinary things that way, things people might go so far as to call miraculous.

The reason I expressed all that is, well, it seemed to want to be expressed, but other than that, it was a kind of "signpost", I suppose, and a hint for some things people might want to try.

I'd also like to express my gratitude for this thread. It reminded me of a few things and cleared some metaphorical cobwebs for me. Thank you, brotherethan. :)

[brotherethan]

Thank you caterpillarwoman, I read your post "casting out love" the other day and have been practising it, and I also feel that the love does magnify when you send it out to others and God, thanks for posting it.

[ButterflyWoman]

Thank you caterpillarwoman, I read your post "casting out love" the other day and have been practising it, and I also feel that the love does magnify when you send it out to others and God, thanks for posting it.
I've had some astoundingly intense events from deliberately casting love to Source. It bounces back and magnifies. The bliss can be almost painful. :shock: Amazing.

Oh, and you're welcome. ;)

[brotherethan]

[quote] CPW The bliss can be almost painful.

I suspect the painful part is for purification of the body/ies. In autobiography of a yogi it says,

""The marts of men seemed remotely dim as I squatted by the yogi in the isolation of the tiny jungle village. The cottage room was mysterious with a mellow light. Ram Gopal arranged some torn blankets on the floor for my bed, and seated himself on a straw mat. Overwhelmed by his spiritual magnetism, I ventured a request.

"Sir, why don't you grant me a samadhi?"

"Dear one, I would be glad to convey the divine contact, but it is not my place to do so." The saint looked at me with half-closed eyes. "Your master will bestow that experience shortly. Your body is not tuned just yet. As a small lamp cannot withstand excessive electrical voltage, so your nerves are unready for the cosmic current. If I gave you the infinite ecstasy right now, you would burn as if every cell were on fire.

"You are asking illumination from me," the yogi continued musingly, "while I am wondering inconsiderable as I am, and with the little meditation I have doneif I have succeeded in pleasing God, and what worth I may find in His eyes at the final reckoning."

"Sir, have you not been singleheartedly seeking God for a long time?"

"I have not done much. Behari must have told you something of my life. For twenty years I occupied a secret grotto, meditating eighteen hours a day. Then I moved to a more inaccessible cave and remained there for twenty-five years, entering the yoga union for twenty hours daily. I did not need sleep, for I was ever with God. My body was more rested in the complete calmness of the superconsciousness than it could be by the partial peace of the ordinary subconscious state. ""

"My goodness, you have meditated for so long and yet are unsure of the Lord's favor!" I gazed at him in astonishment. "Then what about us poor mortals?" "

[ButterflyWoman]

I suspect the painful part is for purification of the body/ies.
No. That's not at all what I'm talking about, and that's not the experience (I have had plenty of "purifying" experiences, some of them so painful it defies description, so I am familiar.). However, I doubt very much that I will be able to make myself understood or to make what I'm trying to say clear, so I'll leave it at that.

I was trying to describe something exquisitely and extremely pleasurable. However, it is beyond words, so I'm going to stop trying to use them to explain.

[brotherethan]

[quote]CPW I was trying to describe something exquisitely and extremely pleasurable. However, it is beyond words, so I'm going to stop trying to use them to explain.

Yes, I may know what you mean, I used to lay down and put my hand over my heart and in about fifteen minutes I would have to take it off because I was feeling so good and warm inside my body it was overwhelming and would make my body jerk about because of the intense pleasure.