not sure if this is the preset or if it was astral noise

[Bluefirephoenixx]

25 and a half minutes into the trance preset there was a noise that startled me out of everything sounded like a boat horn only softer kinda like the tones in the mind taming section is this in there or was it astral noise. if it's astral noise I'm making progress.

[CFTraveler]

I think it was astral noise. I'm pretty sure that there was no horn sound in the BWGen that I can remember.
Congrats! You're closer than you think.

[Bluefirephoenixx]

dad blasted astral gremlins can't they keep the racket down. :twisted: Dang it probably blew an exit this morning because of that.
Guess I'd better read ahead eh?

[Cirrus Minor]

I've had the same thing happen with hemi sync a couple of times, where I hear a "beep" or bumping noise. I reviewed the track to see if there was a glitch or audio anomaly, but I couldn't find a thing! I haven't really been able to access that state of mind on command yet but hopefully I'll figure it out.

[CFTraveler]

The 'beep's, 'pop', 'screech' and ocassional screams ("No" is pretty popular, for some reason) happen randomly, and I don't know that they can be "recreated". You can reach the right state for them at the onset of trance or at it's outset, but there is no guarantee they'll happen- or when.

A side comment, not meant to derail-
I think "no" is the subconscious way of startling you out of the trance, but I don't really think it is threatened (like many speculate. I don't think the subconscious can be threatened)- I think it's a matter of how much the subject uses the word in waking life-a habit.

[Bluefirephoenixx]

I was able to get another session in before work yesterday. The noise was not repeated. I did hear a popping sound at a different spot on the preset but I didn't let it derail the trance this time. It wasn't as loud which helped. Quite a lot was happening yesterday. There was no question that there were exit symptoms after the pop. One thing I noticed is the appearance of what looked like TV snow you know when lightning's near the area with the old antanae type tv's? ( maybe I'm showing my age here ) :oops:

It was like I brushed the projection reflex but didn't nail it exactly I tried rolling spinning climbing. I might have gotten too excited but it just felt like I didn't quite trigger it or it was partial. I had no vision other than the snow I also was quite dizzy at times which made me queasy. The thing I'm really happy about is that it was a two for two I got to the same place twice in a row on the same day. There was bit of a recoil from the vertigo but I caught it quick and made sure I could recreate it again. ( sort of a spinning rolling thing in my head) and I had a good sense of the astral double that was generated. Now if I could just get out. I think I'm real close. My intent was to play with the trance going into the session but when that started I decided to take a stab at getting out. I think one problem was that I had had a large meal before hand. Couldn't sleep and decided to work with something and hopefully get tired doing it. Gonna try an Ayurvedic diet see if that helps lighten things up a bit. Won't hurt me anyway thats how I SHOULD be eating.

[CFTraveler]

The vertigo is an exit sensation also- you can call it 'synched vibrations' (I sometimes call them 'end stage' vibrations also). When I get those I try to 'go' with the wave, just like you would if you were bodysurfing- try to synch with the movement and propel yourself with it. You are practically there, btw.
ps. The visual snow is a symptom of a third-eye exit, and you can phase with that also, by trying to control the vision- 'focus' in, if possible. You may feel sucked into the picture- this would be a direct astral projection.
Either way, you're practically there.